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Re: Obscure Systems

Postby scotland » December 22nd, 2017, 6:13 pm

How about the 2005 Seventh Generation Canadian system, The Game Wave - MSRP about $100

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGT7IgepRQw

The controllers are basically TV remotes, and the games mostly trivia, family board games like Scrabble and Boggle, and Veggie Tales. Around this time, I do remember a few 'interactive DVD games' that would play on a regular CD player, so any interest in trivia games didn't need this device.

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Re: Obscure Systems

Postby Sut » January 3rd, 2018, 6:15 pm

pacman000 wrote:Behold, the Philips Tele-Spiel, from 1975: http://www.old-computers.com/museum/com ... st=2&c=664


Looks like the usual PC-50x / Telstar Arcade style system although perhaps released earlier ?
Pong Story has a good page dedicated to it:

http://www.pong-story.com/spiel.htm

But just looking at the names of the game cartridges you can tell which first generation game it’s from although this system doesn’t seem to use AY or MOS chips but CMOS still seems the same game structure as other systems though.

ES-2211 - Tennis
Pong clone

ES-2212 - Pelota
Pelota means ‘ball’ so another Pong variation

ES-2213 - Skeet Shooting
Shooting Gallery game

ES-2214 - Racing
This one looks like a slight variation on the standard Pong era ‘Road Race’ game as it doesn’t look like it has multiple cars but rather a slaloming style track, but essentially still guide your car upscreen and avoid obstacles.

ES-2215 - Ghost chaser
I had hopes this might be a unique first generation game from the title, but looking at the details on Pong Story it looks like a variation on the Shooting Gallery style game.

Edit: ‘Screenshots’
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Would love to see some screenshots though, perhaps Sly DC may get around to simulating it some day.

There seems to be 8 unique games in the first generation (excluding the Odyssey) with others being variations of these 8 games possibly using different chip suppliers lending to minor variations. If I’ve missed any please jump in:

Pong / Tennis
Road Race / Grand Prix
Tank
Motorcycle/ Stunt Cycle
Wipeout / Breakout
Submarine
Shooting Gallery
Pinball (although can only find Atari on this one).

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Re: Obscure Systems

Postby scotland » January 3rd, 2018, 9:55 pm

Sut wrote: There seems to be 8 unique games in the first generation (excluding the Odyssey) with others being variations of these 8 games possibly using different chip suppliers lending to minor variations. If I’ve missed any please jump in:

Pong / Tennis
Road Race / Grand Prix
Tank
Motorcycle/ Stunt Cycle
Wipeout / Breakout
Submarine
Shooting Gallery
Pinball (although can only find Atari on this one).


This is a neat idea, Sut - seeing about families of games in the 1st generation.

I'll add one more - its also part of the Atari Video Pinball unit along with the pinball variants (some use flippers, some use a pong paddle) and the breakout/breakthrough, and that's BASKETBALL. What makes this different from a pong game (although its obviously is descended from it, is that you *bounce* the ball on your paddle like volleyball, but then you shoot through three breakout-like bands - you get variable points for the number of bands the ball goes through. Its been awhile, but I think you need to catch the ball coming through as well.

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I like how the one machine calls the lightgun game "Ghost Chaser" - that's using the old imagination!

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Re: Obscure Systems

Postby Sut » January 4th, 2018, 6:01 am

scotland wrote:I'll add one more - its also part of the Atari Video Pinball unit along with the pinball variants (some use flippers, some use a pong paddle) and the breakout/breakthrough, and that's BASKETBALL. What makes this different from a pong game (although its obviously is descended from it, is that you *bounce* the ball on your paddle like volleyball, but then you shoot through three breakout-like bands - you get variable points for the number of bands the ball goes through. Its been awhile, but I think you need to catch the ball coming through as well.


Ahh this explains why you showed an interest in the Basketball game on Supersportic for the PC-50x. I’ve played Basketball Pong variations, but like the PC-50x version they play more like Breakout with a basket to aim at rather than bricks.
The Atari one you mention seems somewhat unique with the ball bouncing mechanic which perhaps elevates it above the multitude of Pong sports games ?

Unfortunately it appears Atari Pinball consoles never saw a release in the UK. So this is one first generation variant I won’t get to play unless it get’s simulated. I won’t import one as the chances of getting a 1970’s NTSC RF console to agree with UK TV sets are close to nil.

As an aside how close is the 2600 port of Video Pinball to the dedicated console version ?

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Re: Obscure Systems

Postby pacman000 » January 4th, 2018, 5:20 pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MudYEDUK3Nw

Super Mario Bros ported to the Super Cassette Vision

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Re: Obscure Systems

Postby lynchie137 » January 4th, 2018, 7:04 pm

pacman000 wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MudYEDUK3Nw

Super Mario Bros ported to the Super Cassette Vision


Wow. Looks surprisingly faithful to the NES version. Wonder if it plays as well as that one too.....

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Re: Obscure Systems

Postby Sut » January 5th, 2018, 4:12 am

pacman000 wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=MudYEDUK3Nw

Super Mario Bros ported to the Super Cassette Vision


The scrolling is surprisingly smooth as it’s normally janky on these era systems.

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Re: Obscure Systems

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Re: Obscure Systems

Postby scotland » January 5th, 2018, 8:55 pm

lynchie137 wrote:Anybody ever hear of this one?

http://www.old-computers.com/museum/com ... st=2&c=725


A German new chip on a cart system? Never heard of it, but I like the DIN connectors for possibly different controllers. Its fun to see the many ideas going around. I like the analog controllers. I see a basketball game, but it looks like a pong variant.

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Re: Obscure Systems

Postby pacman000 » January 6th, 2018, 9:34 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fA2eKN_WMUo

O_o

From the video's description, translated from Japanese via Google Translate:

I wanted to move something like "super shot 68K" with super cassette vision (no sound)
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Since there is no real machine environment, I recorded what I emulated with eSCV.exe.
Since it is not possible to confirm the actual machine, it is unconfirmed whether it will work on actual machine.
It is based on a 32kB + 8k SRAM cartridge.


Not actual hardware, but impressive. I wonder if it would really work on a real SCV...


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