Xbox One Game Pass - Netflix style gaming

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Re: Xbox One Game Pass - Netflix style gaming

Postby Atarifever » March 2nd, 2017, 8:16 pm

scotland wrote:
Atarifever wrote:Why does everyone, on every website I've seen (not just here) keep comparing this to Netflix.


I pulled it right from the Polygon headline. You can certainly argue its not new, and its not news, but it is a subscription based library of media available for download, and 'so, kinda like Netflix for video games' is a totally reasonable and appropriate shorthand.


Sorry, should have phrased that differently, seeing it was obvious why you used the wording you did. Didn't mean to imply there was nothing to talk about or that you should have somehow used wording different than the artcile you were directly linking.

What surprises me is that this wording is so obviously from the Microsoft marketing department. They don't want to compare to failed experiements, so they compare to the one big success in streaming pay services. However, why the games media (IGN posted the Netflix thing too, as did some tech sites) is going with that is beyond me. Streaming games got their first big, IGN and Gamespot covered splash with Onlive, which had real big games (I played an Arkam game on there once), a lot of financial backing, and headlines all about the death of physical media. That was, like, 7 years ago. Nvidia has had a game streaming service for some time now IIRC, and promotes it with the Shield thing they sell. Most importantly, Playstation, Xbox's main competitor, has a similar technology already launched, updated, and practically dying already after multiple years on a bunch of devices.

Given all the examples from this exact industry, it's kind of odd I think to see why any site not directly owned by Microsoft would be making the Netflix comparison rather than one of the others. My previous example actually misses the point a bit. See, this is where an EXACT analog of this service exists in the industry it is in, and media that covers that industry is going to look elsewhere for their comparison, which is, at the least, odd.

It is like if Nintendo started a brick and Mortar set of shops that rented physical movies for a fraction of their purchase cost and charged late fees when you brought them back late and every site that covers home video said "it's like a book lending public library, but for movies and with a fee." You'd be like "NO! It's like Blockbuster!"

It may seem like a minor thing to some people, but this clearly shows me how willingly games media "drink the Kool Aid" from marketing. Microsoft clearly benefits from comparing this to Netflix, and would want that to be the story, so they will tell the story that way. The last thing they want is to be comparatively slow to the game, or compared to all the failed or unimportant examples of this that are already out there. Games media have no reason to make such a convoluted comparison, other than a desire to relay the exact message Microsoft fed them.

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Re: Xbox One Game Pass - Netflix style gaming

Postby David » March 2nd, 2017, 8:35 pm

Microsoft's service differs from PS Now by quite a bit I think. For one, the games aren't streamed. PS Now's inherent lag make certain games a pain in the ass to play. And two, Microsoft is offering current and 360 games, whereas PS Now only offers PS3 games. If anything, PS Now works similarly to Netflix and Microsoft's service is like the Sega Channel. I think it's a good idea for most people who are new to the console, don't need physical media, and want to catch up on some older titles.

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Re: Xbox One Game Pass - Netflix style gaming

Postby Atarifever » March 2nd, 2017, 8:44 pm

David wrote:Microsoft's service differs from PS Now by quite a bit I think. For one, the games aren't streamed. PS Now's inherent lag make certain games a pain in the ass to play. And two, Microsoft is offering current and 360 games, whereas PS Now only offers PS3 games. If anything, PS Now works similarly to Netflix and Microsoft's service is like the Sega Channel. I think it's a good idea for most people who are new to the console, don't need physical media, and want to catch up on some older titles.


Now I'm confused. I have been reading "can download" on every site and, given their odd comparison to Netflix, have assumed that meant "if you'd rather do that than stream." So it's EA Access then. A comparable subscription service only available on Xbox, that Microsoft themselves made a big deal about? Or PS+. Or XBOX games with freaking Gold! Now I'm just lost. Why is anyone in the games media, then, bringing up Netflix at all. Netflix is primarily a streaming service. Now it's just crazy. Hey, I got a Netflix service too. You subscribe to magazines and they deliver them to your door. You know, like Netflix streaming movie and TV service, but with magazines and no streaming. I got a Netflix food service. You go to a store and buy groceries. Just like Netflix, but with no streaming, no online, no subscription, and it sells you groceries.

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Re: Xbox One Game Pass - Netflix style gaming

Postby David » March 2nd, 2017, 9:56 pm

Atarifever wrote:Now I'm confused. I have been reading "can download" on every site and, given their odd comparison to Netflix, have assumed that meant "if you'd rather do that than stream." So it's EA Access then. A comparable subscription service only available on Xbox, that Microsoft themselves made a big deal about? Or PS+. Or XBOX games with freaking Gold! Now I'm just lost. Why is anyone in the games media, then, bringing up Netflix at all. Netflix is primarily a streaming service. Now it's just crazy. Hey, I got a Netflix service too. You subscribe to magazines and they deliver them to your door. You know, like Netflix streaming movie and TV service, but with magazines and no streaming. I got a Netflix food service. You go to a store and buy groceries. Just like Netflix, but with no streaming, no online, no subscription, and it sells you groceries.


Yeah, EA Access is probably a better comparison, except the games in the vault there don't cycle out and the games on the Xbox service are going to rotate. I heard on a podcast that the initial beta test had 4-5 Xbox One games and another 15-20 360 games. So they were speculating that the majority of games will be older 360 titles, but we'll see.

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Re: Xbox One Game Pass - Netflix style gaming

Postby ESauce » March 3rd, 2017, 5:35 pm

Does anyone here think they'll be using this service when it releases? I know the details are scant but I'm curious if anyone is intrigued.

I could see myself getting a month or two of it if a couple games hit the library that I'm interested enough to play, but don't feel the need to buy. I could especially see myself doing a month of it if they offer one for free. :lol:

I got a month of EA Access a while back and was able to try out Titanfall and a couple other games. I was glad for the service because Titanfall easily could have been a game I bought for $10 and then never played. Being able to try it for a few hours and see it wasn't for me was nice. Plus, I was able to have some fun in a few other games that I wouldn't have tried otherwise.


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