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Re: Gaming subject matter

Posted: June 17th, 2017, 3:36 pm
by C64_Critic
Atarifever wrote:I usually think this stuff is incredibly silly when I see people and companies apologizing, turning tail and running away, etc. I think most companies and people over-react to pressure and then later people talk about how they were "censored." Realizing what you say may have an impact on your image or profits is not the same as being censored.


Thank you for pointing this out. It drives me insane when someone does something ridiculous, suffers a backlash in the court of popular opinion, and then whines about how they're being 'censored' or somehow are having their right to free speech taken away (I'm looking at you, Kathy Griffin). You have the right to say pretty much anything you want, but people don't necessarily have to agree with you or not push back against what you say.

To your actual question; no, I don't think games should be censored/banned just the same as a novelist or a movie maker or a painter should not be censored or have their work banned. There's no point in having freedom of speech if you don't protect offensive speech. Expressing opinions and thought everyone else has and agrees with doesn't need protection, does it?

Re: Gaming subject matter

Posted: June 17th, 2017, 3:56 pm
by David
I share the sentiment that while nothing should be banned outright, if there's a backlash to a distasteful game the creators of that have to be prepared for the consequences.

What was the game Scotland?

Re: Gaming subject matter

Posted: June 17th, 2017, 7:36 pm
by Voor
Different strokes. I think there needs to be some ability maintained to ban something, but I admit that it's an extremely slippery slope.

Re: Gaming subject matter

Posted: June 18th, 2017, 4:50 pm
by matmico399
Well I will state in all honesty I have no problem in banning certain games. Rapelay is a prime example as mentioned above. But it needs to be used very rarely. Most games should not be banned. That being said consoles will not carry anything above an M rating and if the M rating is enforced I have no problem with it. Although some content can be extremely disturbing.

Certain AO games for the pic and Mac I feel should be under more scrutiny. Yes there is freedom of speech but there are also obscenity laws. Hardcore sex films are considered not obscene, depending on what actions take place in them. Being a family friendly site I can't go into it. But with everything I have read about Rapelay that should be considered obscene.

Re: Gaming subject matter

Posted: June 18th, 2017, 9:43 pm
by LoganRuckman
Despite being mostly left in terms of my views, and despite HATING racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. and being disgusted by certain subject matter, I am very much against censorship (aside from certain things like child pornography and anything that shows actual rape, which obviously should be shut down). I feel that freedom of speech and freedom of expression are very important for a progressive society, and censorship of art is censorship of freedom.

For example, I feel like games like Super Columbine Massacre RPG and KZ Manager are absolutely disgusting games made by scummy people. Saying that, I will still defend the creators right to develop the game they want to make without fear of censorship. Punishing people for artistic freedom can only lead to more rights being taken away from us. How far can it go before we live in a authoritarian dictatorship where everyone is punished for having a different view or expressing themselves in a different way from "acceptable" ideals?

Re: Gaming subject matter

Posted: June 19th, 2017, 8:11 am
by Voor
There's another issue: trash like the games you mentioned being considered "art". with all the emphasis on hate crimes these days, it wouldn't surprise me if things tighten up.