Super Mario Maker

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Re: Super Mario Maker

Postby MoarRipter » November 21st, 2015, 9:29 pm

taffer wrote:Yahtzee's review pretty much sums up my view on this game: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5TjeU4xKqE


That guy's review makes a couple of valid points but for the most part I disagree with his review and I think it's bogus. I'm sure he got a lot of positive points and LOLs with the younger surly crowd for his cynicism, swearing, and juvenile references to dicks, spunk, and potty humor of the like.

1) The physics between the four graphical styles, it is not merely cosmetic only. The various suits for flying are different among the later three styles, NSMB can do the wall jump, etc. The only thing that in the graphical styles that feels changed to me is in the SMB style you can jump higher by holding down the A button - something you couldn't do in the original game. The various graphical styles do feel like the individual games they are based on, for the most part. The big criticism I can find is that you can't do hills, nor vertical/diagonal scrolling levels. Hopefully Nintendo will address that criticism as they did with the lack of level checkpoints.

2) As the weeks have progressed people have been making better levels, not just lame auto-play levels. The best way to experience the levels through the game is in the 100 Mario Challenge where you will get a randomized levels. I've played some excellent ones and some terrible ones, exactly what I expected from this game when I bought it. I think too many casual gamers just go into look for the highest rated levels and find novelty auto-levels thinking that's all that the game is. The random assortment of levels (good and bad) through the 100 Mario Challenge is where the fun is at, and that's where people's creative levels can shine other than early released crap levels getting regurgitated by people finding it already highly rated and not knowing of the other gem levels that are out there that simply aren't on the radar. Honestly the good levels outweighs the poor ones, and when people come across a good level they usually mark it as such by starring it and/or commenting on it. Unfortunately, still not enough people are starring those levels yet so they're being drowned out by shitty auto-play levels. So please, if you play Super Mario Maker and you come across a fun level that you enjoy - PLEASE STAR IT. The crappy levels are slowly getting weeded out but there will always be some. This is to be expected with a game that relies on UGC. I do wish that Nintendo had a different way to sort highly rated levels, perhaps have a different category for auto-play levels and a different category for real levels that actually require the player to pickup the controller and play. Who knows what difficulty of the Challenge this guy was playing, but I've found the normal difficulty to be the best. It is largely devoid of both those insanely hard "asshole Mario" levels typical of the SMW rom hacks of years past where they put invisible blocks over a pit you need to jump over (which I hate) and the stupid levels full of the same type of enemy or block (which I also hate).

3) Nintendo limiting the amount of creation tools at the start is intended to keep people from jumping right in and making a stupid level full of random enemies or blocks, which sometimes still happens anyway, unfortunately. They want the player to experiment slowly at first, in creative ways, instead of overwhelming them with everything at the start. Maybe that's an appropriate mindset for the younger crowd playing the game but not for grown ups that are familiar with these types of games, I don't know. At any rate, it's easy to work around that to unlock all of the elements within an hour or so of first playing the game. Instructions for how to do this were widely posted on the web the day the game was released. Also I'm glad that Nintendo limits players to only uploading ten levels, this helps to ensure that players only post their ten best creations, until they get enough stars/likes on those levels (100) to open up the next tier where they can upload up to 20 levels, then after a further 100 stars (200) they can do up to 30 uploads, and so on. I think this also helps ensure that people only upload their very best creations.

At the end of the day Super Mario Maker is not without its faults, its not perfect and its not the best Mario game ever, some would argue it's not even a game, but I'm having a good time with it and it utilizes the Gamepad in a better fashion than any other Wii U game I've played. I'd like to see Nintendo take the concept further to their other franchises such as 2D style Metroid, Mario Kart custom track creation, and perhaps even 2D Zeldas.

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Re: Super Mario Maker

Postby MoarRipter » December 4th, 2015, 5:47 pm

snakeboy wrote:Is it just me, or are the user-created levels getting a lot better? I just played 100 Mario Challenge (normal difficulty) and starred most of the 16 courses.


Here lately I've noticed that the assortment of user-created levels that I've been getting in the normal difficulty of the 100 Mario Challenge are mostly terrible. I've been getting a lot of really stupid levels full of just random blocks, few or no enemies, nothing but coins, bad autoplay levels, and at worst levels that are literally nothing but an end-of-course flag. I still get the occasionally well done, inventive level, when playing the challenge but for the most part the quality of levels has taken a great nose dive. :|

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Re: Super Mario Maker

Postby Herschie » May 4th, 2016, 10:13 pm

This is one game that would be great on the 3DS because it's a grab-and-go type game that would work well with the touchscreen. And it's not the type of game that I could spend all day playing.

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Re: Super Mario Maker

Postby DaHeckIzDat » May 28th, 2016, 4:54 pm

Hey guys, I made a level the other day and nobody's managed to beat it as of yet. Maybe one of you can be the first! 0078-0000-0247-5FFE.

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Re: Super Mario Maker

Postby Herschie » May 5th, 2017, 9:57 am

Boy did this game die off quick!

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Re: Super Mario Maker

Postby CharlieR » May 5th, 2017, 10:43 am

For me, I played this game in short doses for about a month or two. Once I made what I thought was a decent level, I pretty much lost interest in it. The User-created levels never really had me interested, maybe I'll pop it in and see if there's anything new and exciting. Interesting that it got a 3ds port after a lot of people thought it would be the perfect game to play on 3ds.

This game echoes the critic's sentiments of games that are fully enjoyed while being online. Makes me wonder if the game will pretty much be useless in a couple years, if the servers are shut down.

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Re: Super Mario Maker

Postby Tron » May 5th, 2017, 11:04 pm

Got this game for my kids hoping they would play it. Pretty much the only game they play is Minecraft.


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