My point has been misunderstood. I'll clarify it, since I've thought about it a bit more and I don't think I put it across as well as I could have.
I was trying to say that if you aren't a fan of realistic, modern 3D action games (which, by the way, I am), than everything in that genre is going to be the same to you. It was a mistake on my part to use the term hardcore gamer because I suppose you could be a hardcore oldschool gamer.
So, if you are not a fan of 3D action games, the Wii might afford an interesting choice amongst the new consoles. I'm not even sure I understand how the "but Farcry on Wii sucks! All the FPS games on Wii sucks!" statements have anything at all to do with that at all. I certainly wasn't trying to defend those games.
All in all, the reason that people like Alienblue and Funkmaster V are excited about the Wii is that it offers something different, just like the DS did.
Here is the really important thing to remember:
Yes, different controls aren't the only way to have a new experience. But at its core, gameplay has been changed only with visual presentation while the actual, tactile sensation has been the same: button pushing. With the Wii, the experience in fundamentally changed, especially in the games that really use the technology well.
The fact that Nintendo has accomplished such an important innovation in a game system that actually costs significantly less than its competitors is a huge, massive achievement. I have yet to hear any arguments against the Wii that have real substance. They usually boil down to:
1. Nintendo actually screwed people equal to or even worse than Sony (laughable, but its been argued).
2. It doesn't have "the games." It does have them, but the person arguing this point is really saying "they don't have games that fit my very narrow tastes."
3. It's just going to be a bunch of Mario and Link games. Well, we'll see on that one. Time will tell, but it seems fairly obvious that cheaper development costs and huge early sales = great support.
4. Games will be gimmicky and stupid. So far, not true. Either the game is has solid traditional gameplay and the new controls help it out a bit, or the controls are fully uilitized well.
At any rate, I'm going to make a personal promise to stop arguing about the Wii for awhile...... I think I've said all I could say by now!