jon wrote: But they won’t admit that the Saturn’s actual 3d output was significantly worse than the PS1’s 3d output.
No, we've pretty much established that based on the evidence of released software, there's no way the Saturn is running a late release PSone AAA title without losing the lighting and the shading, or giving up the resolution advantage. It'll also take a slight hit on textures.
And even then, only the best art/coding teams in the world, with possibly years of development time to reconstruct everything for the Saturn's quirks, are going to come up with anything that could compete on store shelves.
This is why I keep comparing the full power of the Saturn, as we currently understand it, to 95-96 releases, instead. (Or Final Fantasy VII.)
But you'd rather argue that the Saturn is a 3DO, instead, because you have no idea what you're talking about.