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Postby Weekend_Warrior1 » October 7th, 2013, 2:25 am

I seem to remember the Wii U having a bunch of updates on day one, too 

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Postby Oltobaz1 » October 7th, 2013, 2:43 am

True, but it didn't force the update, the system could function without it, offline of course. The Xbone's update, however, is mandatory.

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Postby Segatarious1 » October 7th, 2013, 6:56 am

[QUOTE=David][QUOTE=weallmissedme]Well, if it requires an update out of the box, it brings up a theory. What if they're just doing this to steal sonys' buck? Then they could change the policies back whenever![/QUOTE] Really? You think MS is going to reverse their policies soon after launch, regaining even more bad publicity than they had before, just to cut into Sony's (probable) lead? Highly, highly unlikely. [/QUOTE]

Why?

It may be their best course of action in the future. Say their base gets to a decent amount, and they want to 'put the screws' to the faithful, and ply as much money as possible out of them.

There you go. Flip the switch, new use agreement, Xbox ONE is live.

You are naive if you think otherwise. I said so many times over the last few years this is the direction they were going on, only to be called a troll - well, who trolled you in the end? And now you think they are 'reformed'? Ha.

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Postby VideoGameCritic » October 7th, 2013, 8:14 am

It's an interesting theory.  When Microsoft originally talked about the day-one mandatory update, I figured it was because the systems (or at least the software) had already been finished.  But that was June, so it was still pretty early!  Why would they do this?

I can definitely see Microsoft trying to pry a lot of personal information out of you during the initial "update".  You'll probably have to agree to a bunch of EULAs as well.  It could be kind of intrusive. 

In addition, you could imagine a scenario where something in that original update wasn't quite right, so Microsoft will tell you to get back on-line if you want to correct it.

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Postby velcrozombie1 » October 7th, 2013, 9:09 am

This is from an article that Kotaku just published yesterday, where
where one of the XBox One's top marketers talked about what
Kinect was capable of at an advertising conference. The full article
(which now contains a response from someone at Microsoft) can be
found here:
http://kotaku.com/xbox-ones-top-marketer-brags-to-advertisers-about-kine-1441807229

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Let's remember that Kinect is no longer mandatory to the Xbox One's operation and neither is a periodic check-in with the Xbox servers, requirements that were walked back under a firestorm of gamer outrage. That said, many users will simply leave both utilities plugged in. And when a publication like Advertising Age—whose audience ain't exactly privacy-concerned hardcore gamers—says "Xbox One can essentially work like TV that watches you, bringing marketers a huge new trove of data," you realize why Microsoft wanted those requirements in the first place.

Mehdi, at the Association of National Advertisters' Masters of Marketing Conference, in Phoenix yesterday, said Microsoft can see whether people are paying attention to ads and evaluate how their bodies respond to them, according to a marketer who attended but asked that his name not be used in AdAge's report.2

"It could have a big impact on pricing," he added. AdAge agrees: "If even a fraction of likely Xbox One users could be persuaded to share data, the technology could create the world's largest panel for measuring biometric responses to advertising." 34

Mehdi told the panel, according to AdAge that "it's early days, but we're starting to put that together in more of a unifying way, and hopefully at some point we can start to offer that to advertisers broadly." He called this "a holy grail in terms of how you understand the consumer in that 360 degrees of their life."

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Postby darkrage61 » October 7th, 2013, 1:05 pm

David-Agreed, I can see why some people are jumping to conclusions about how Microsoft will screw people over, but now that they've had to eat their humble pie, there's just no way they would try and further jeopardize sales of the console when they're already behind the PS4 as it is, doing anything like that would put them firmly in third place where they would likely never move up from.

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Postby Sut1 » October 7th, 2013, 4:54 pm

The one obvious thing from all this is Microsoft are not trusted by many people anymore, Nintendo should prepare a 'relaunch' for the Wii U as these 2 consoles hit the shelves and really put the cat amongst the pidgeons. If it can put out its big guns around the time of the PS4 / XBone launch maybe it might do better than a third place Gamecube style generation.

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Postby Tron1 » October 9th, 2013, 10:57 pm

[QUOTE=videogamecritic]
In addition, you could imagine a scenario where something in that original update wasn't quite right, so Microsoft will tell you to get back on-line if you want to correct it.[/QUOTE]

That sounds about right. Say 30 days later Micro$oft will issue a statement stating that another update will be required. As a token of goodwill they'll offer a 30% discount to new Xbox Gold subscribers for 3 months. How about to make it an even sweeter deal to compensate gamers they'll give everyone a sneak peak at all of the wonderful dlc they have in store for the next Halo game. Become a Gold subscriber now and get 3 skins and a Super Blaster dlc for free.


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