pacman000 wrote:Remember, till the 70's New York banned pinball!
Other way around - pinball was 'unbanned' around then in New York, when it was demonstrated to be a game of skill, not chance. It was banned decades before in the 1940s by LaGuardia before the introduction of pinball flippers, and indeed, those earlier forms of pinball (plinko, bagatelle) were basically games of chance that did take kids hard earned nickels. It does give evidence that the size of the stakes, even a lowly nickel, were enough to call it gambling.
I don't know where the line of gambling is. In toy departments, one of the current trends are essentially physical loot boxes - you get an opaque container containing a toy. You always get a toy, but what toy is the gamble. I currently have 2 Pac-Man, 2 Orange Ghosts, 1 Blue Ghost and 1 Yellow Ghost I want my Red Ghost, but I might have to buy a lot of mystery boxes to finally get one (its like a modern gumball vending machine issue).
Since every loot box gives you something, even if its not something you want, does that make it not gambling anymore?