Final Fantasy VII Discussion
Posted: December 17th, 2014, 12:36 pm
So in another thread JWK mentioned that he was playing through Final Fantasy VII for the first time and loving. I wanted to discuss the game, but didn't want to derail that thread.
For me Final Fantasy VII was the first time I really ever played a Japanese Role Playing Game (JRPG). It was certainly my first Final Fantasy game. I loved the game. It was unlike anything I had ever played or seen before. Many of my friends had the game and were obsessed with it. I think I've finished it 3 or 4 times...sinking in hundreds of hours. In one memorable session, me and my friend finished the game in one nonstop 30+ hour game session.
So as you can tell, I'm a huge fan of the game. It left a big impression on me and helped introduce me to J/RPGs which is one of my favorite genres in gaming.
Over the years the game has gone on to become rather divisive among Final Fantasy fans. In the pre-internet years I had no clue people were so vocal in their dislike of the game. That hate has only grown with each new Final Fantasy since VII.
You see, when a series strikes gold like Square did with Final Fantasy VII they want to continue making that cash. So they use their massive hit as a template. With the exception of Final Fantasy IX, pretty much all of the later Final Fantasy games use VII's DNA. This mostly has to do with the tone, visuals and settings of the games. You see even though 'Fantasy' is right in the title, the games have moved on from their fantasy beginnings. Gone are stereotypical kings and princesses, knights and dragons. Now you have outlandish outfits with zippers upon zippers...it looks like characters are designed with cosplay in mind. Many people seem to blame VII for this aesthetic style and lack of fantasy tropes. Yes the older games always had elements of Steam Punk, but the new games now seem to be set in futuristic metropolis...again VII is apparently to blame for this.
It's an interesting dilemma for Square Enix. They clearly love using the 'style' that VII popularized and people in Japan eat it up too. A HD remake of Final Fantasy VII is one of the most demanded games never to be made.
What do the rest of you think of VII? I think it's a masterpiece and one of the best Final Fantasy games ever made. It's also historically important as it helped mold and popularize the RPG genre for a very long time. Its impact is still being felt today...especially among new FF titles. The Materia system is my second favorite mechanic...right next to the Job system. The characters are all well done and it seemed like there was something for everyone. I miss how FF games have moved away from having weird party members. One other forum member once described FF VII, VIII and IX cutscenes as having a 'silent movie' quality about them and I agree. Without speech they're just magical to sit and watch. Final Fantasy is a series I'm very passionate about and I personally think VII gets a bad rep these days.
For me Final Fantasy VII was the first time I really ever played a Japanese Role Playing Game (JRPG). It was certainly my first Final Fantasy game. I loved the game. It was unlike anything I had ever played or seen before. Many of my friends had the game and were obsessed with it. I think I've finished it 3 or 4 times...sinking in hundreds of hours. In one memorable session, me and my friend finished the game in one nonstop 30+ hour game session.
So as you can tell, I'm a huge fan of the game. It left a big impression on me and helped introduce me to J/RPGs which is one of my favorite genres in gaming.
Over the years the game has gone on to become rather divisive among Final Fantasy fans. In the pre-internet years I had no clue people were so vocal in their dislike of the game. That hate has only grown with each new Final Fantasy since VII.
You see, when a series strikes gold like Square did with Final Fantasy VII they want to continue making that cash. So they use their massive hit as a template. With the exception of Final Fantasy IX, pretty much all of the later Final Fantasy games use VII's DNA. This mostly has to do with the tone, visuals and settings of the games. You see even though 'Fantasy' is right in the title, the games have moved on from their fantasy beginnings. Gone are stereotypical kings and princesses, knights and dragons. Now you have outlandish outfits with zippers upon zippers...it looks like characters are designed with cosplay in mind. Many people seem to blame VII for this aesthetic style and lack of fantasy tropes. Yes the older games always had elements of Steam Punk, but the new games now seem to be set in futuristic metropolis...again VII is apparently to blame for this.
It's an interesting dilemma for Square Enix. They clearly love using the 'style' that VII popularized and people in Japan eat it up too. A HD remake of Final Fantasy VII is one of the most demanded games never to be made.
What do the rest of you think of VII? I think it's a masterpiece and one of the best Final Fantasy games ever made. It's also historically important as it helped mold and popularize the RPG genre for a very long time. Its impact is still being felt today...especially among new FF titles. The Materia system is my second favorite mechanic...right next to the Job system. The characters are all well done and it seemed like there was something for everyone. I miss how FF games have moved away from having weird party members. One other forum member once described FF VII, VIII and IX cutscenes as having a 'silent movie' quality about them and I agree. Without speech they're just magical to sit and watch. Final Fantasy is a series I'm very passionate about and I personally think VII gets a bad rep these days.