How do you fell about all the re-releases these days?

[pacguy191]

[QUOTE=Vexer]I'm cool with re-releases as long as they're reasonably priced and preferably have some new and/or improved content. [/QUOTE]
"Improved content" could mean the textures are slightly higher res. C'mon now.

Re-releases are really shameless money grabs. It's one thing to remake a game. It's another to re-release one, but in HD so everything seems slightly better looking. Give me new IP or go away.

[BanjoPickles1]

I honestly love rereleases....within reason. Some companies go overboard with it. For instance, how many times can Sega dip into the Sega Genesis well, as great as that well may be, before they start really acknowledging their other hardware? Nintendo has gotten better. I think that they went through a lazy period during the GBA era, having put too much emphasis on nes/snes rereleases.

I like how they do it now. Wind Waker was a terrific game that a lot of people missed the first time around. Ocarina of Time 3D was a classy remake that polished many of the rough edges of the original. I like how they're selective with what gets remade/rereleased.

I loved Last of Us, but did it really need a PS4 release? The same could be said for GTA5. It just seems a bit redundant to rerelease a game that is less than a year old on next gen hardware. Then again, maybe there are PS4 owners who missed out on Last of Us because they only owned a 360 last gen, so I suppose they do serve a purpose.

[Astrosmasher1]

[QUOTE=pacguy19][QUOTE=Vexer]I'm cool with re-releases as long as they're reasonably priced and preferably have some new and/or improved content. [/QUOTE]
"Improved content" could mean the textures are slightly higher res. C'mon now.

Re-releases are really shameless money grabs. It's one thing to remake a game. It's another to re-release one, but in HD so everything seems slightly better looking. Give me new IP or go away.[/QUOTE]
I rather liked Resident Evil 4 the remake on Xbox.  Also the remake of the Resident Evil previously a 3ds game was rather good fun for a while. 
Though I like extra levels and the like...
Also pac man is the game they remake all the time.  See my Game stick post on that one. The only ting that is different about that is the sounds...

[Atarifever1]

[QUOTE=pacguy19][QUOTE=Vexer]I'm cool with re-releases as long as they're reasonably priced and preferably have some new and/or improved content. [/QUOTE]
"Improved content" could mean the textures are slightly higher res. C'mon now.

Re-releases are really shameless money grabs. It's one thing to remake a game. It's another to re-release one, but in HD so everything seems slightly better looking. Give me new IP or go away.[/QUOTE]
Would you say the same for movies? Get that Godfather remaster out of here! I ain't got time for that trash!

[Vexer1]

Pacguy19-I obviously don't mean small stuff, cmon now, i'm talking about dramatically improved content, one example being Metro Redux, the original Metro 2033 is going to have Last Light's game engine, in addition to new levels and improved enemy A.I.

Re-releases are not always "shameless cash grabs", sometimes a game greatly benefits from a re-release as it fixes problems with the original and adds new content, one re-release I know a lot of people are excited about is Oddworld: New and Tasty.

[Weekend_Warrior1]

The only re-releases that I have a main gripe with are all these "Game Of The Year/Director's Cut/Ultimate/XL/Komplete/Definitive Version" editions. 

 

I absolutely HATE the fact that these companies sell a game, make a ton of money on DLC, then turn around less than a year later and repackage the same game WITH ALL DLC for a nice, new affordable price!  

 

Why do we as gamers allow them to do this? Why hasn't there been more of a backlash towards this type of marketing? 

[pacguy191]

[QUOTE=Vexer]Pacguy19-I obviously don't mean small stuff, cmon now, i'm talking about dramatically improved content, one example being Metro Redux, the original Metro 2033 is going to have Last Light's game engine, in addition to new levels and improved enemy A.I.

Re-releases are not always "shameless cash grabs", sometimes a game greatly benefits from a re-release as it fixes problems with the original and adds new content, one re-release I know a lot of people are excited about is Oddworld: New and Tasty.[/QUOTE]
When they switch engines like that and fix stuff, it's no longer a re-release. It's a remake (at least partially).

When you add content, it's not really a re-release. A re-release is something like Half-Life Source or any Game of the Year version of a game. It being slightly sharper or having all the DLC included, yes, that's a blatant cash grab.
[QUOTE=Weekend_Warrior]Why do we as gamers allow them to do this? Why hasn't there been more of a backlash towards this type of marketing?[/QUOTE]
Gamers by and large typically aren't smart. The fact that Mario Party keeps selling shows that.

The people who hate this stuff enough to not give into buying it are a vocal minority. Most gamers either won't complain or complain and buy it anyway.

[wgames771]

[QUOTE=BanjoPickles]I honestly love rereleases....within reason. Some companies go overboard with it. For instance, how many times can Sega dip into the Sega Genesis well, as great as that well may be, before they start really acknowledging their other hardware? Nintendo has gotten better. I think that they went through a lazy period during the GBA era, having put too much emphasis on nes/snes rereleases.

I like how they do it now. Wind Waker was a terrific game that a lot of people missed the first time around. Ocarina of Time 3D was a classy remake that polished many of the rough edges of the original. I like how they're selective with what gets remade/rereleased.

I loved Last of Us, but did it really need a PS4 release? The same could be said for GTA5. It just seems a bit redundant to rerelease a game that is less than a year old on next gen hardware. Then again, maybe there are PS4 owners who missed out on Last of Us because they only owned a 360 last gen, so I suppose they do serve a purpose.[/QUOTE]

Good point about how Sega likes to re-release their Genesis stuff, but still, the Ultimate Genesis Collection on PS3 was amazing. I personally think that they should acknowledge the Saturn a bit more.

Anyway, all this remake talk has gotten me thinking when developers would run out of ideas for games.

[Vexer1]

There hasn't been much of a backlash because whether you like it or not, people do actually buy that stuff so of course the companies are going to take advantage of that, not saying I agree with it, but from a business standpoint it makes perfect sense.

[velcrozombie1]

[QUOTE=Weekend_Warrior]The only re-releases that I have a main gripe with are all these "Game Of The Year/Director's Cut/Ultimate/XL/Komplete/Definitive Version" editions. 

 

I absolutely HATE the fact that these companies sell a game, make a ton of money on DLC, then turn around less than a year later and repackage the same game WITH ALL DLC for a nice, new affordable price!  

 

Why do we as gamers allow them to do this? Why hasn't there been more of a backlash towards this type of marketing? 

[/QUOTE]

See, I never personally had a problem with this. To me it would be the same as complaining about paying $60 for a game when it will inevitably drop to $30 or even $20 over the next year. You are paying more for the benefit of getting it now, as opposed to having to delay getting what you want until it becomes more affordable. The more hardcore fans are willing to pay now, whereas the more casual fans that aren't quite as interested and need to be enticed (or people like me, whose budget simply doesn't allow for $60 games + DLC) can wait it out.

I personally enjoy well-done re-releases (Silent Hill Collection being a counterexample, a buggy mess that should be avoided at all costs), especially when the games in question are difficult to find at a reasonable price. The Ico/Shadow of the Colossus collection is a great example: by the time it came out, a secondhand copy of Ico by itself cost considerably more than the entire collection. Also, instead of a simple repackaging, both games were optimized to take advantage of the PS3's power: it's impossible to go back to the PS2 version of SotC once you've experienced it in widescreen 1080p with a steady framerate. Finally, you get a lot of bonus material, including Making Of videos and the original cover art for both games (especially cool considering how terrible the cover of the US version of Ico was).

I also have the PS3 re-releases for God of War (which was the first time I'd ever played them, which shows that re-releases can be great for new players too) and Metal Gear Solid, and I plan on getting the Prince of Persia and Sly Cooper collections in the future. I also just purchased the first two Fatal Frame games on PSN for $8 total (cheapest price on Amazon for used copies of both was $40, not including shipping).

As for The Last of Us...it makes good business sense for Sony to have their most acclaimed and successful franchise on their new machine, especially since Naughty Dog are technical wizards who have already talked about how the upgraded version can show off the graphical capabilities of the new system. I doubt I would personally buy it, but I can see how it could be enticing for those who never played the game before, and obviously for plenty that have.