The growing generation gap???

[HardcoreSadism1]

[QUOTE=Vexer]Pacguy19-Well then why did you bring them up then?[/QUOTE]

You're further validating the point I made above...

[ptdebate1]

[QUOTE=Vexer]

I thought 2005-2006 were pretty good years, 1995-1996 wasn't the best period, but hardly worst either.

I think it's incredibly silly and nonsensical to say a new console had "no business" to launch, the 360 and Xbox both had some great games during that period like: BLACK, Rainbow Six: Critical Hour, Splinter Cell: Double Agent, Perfect Dark Zero, Gears Of War, Crackdown, Saints Row, Advent Rising, Battlefield 2, Cold Fear, Cold War, Crime Life: Gang Wars, Dead To Rights 2, Doom 3, GTA: San Andreas, Fatal Frame 2, Half Life 2, Mercenaries, NARC, OddWorld: Stranger's Wrath, Obscure, Psi-Ops, The Punisher, Serious Sam 2, Rainbow Six: Lockdown, Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, Driver: Parallel Lines, Hitman: Blood Money, Final Fight: Streetwise, Just Cause, Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter, Scarface: The World Is Yours, Condemned: Criminal Origins, Dead Rising, F.E.A.R., Rainbow Six Vegas, Tomb Raider: Legend, and many more.

Nickelback are FAR from the worst band that has ever existed, i'm guessing you've never heard Justin Bieber, Maroon 5 or One Direction, I dare you listen to them and tell me that Nickelback is worse.

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Yeah, the Xbox had great games...which is exactly the point I was making.

The 360 in 2005 had a mix of terrible and mediocre ones like Perfect Dark Zero.

Forum user A: Hey Forum User B, what are some good games for System X?

B: *Consults Metacritic...Lists every game with a review score above 70 for System X* 

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Forum user C: Hey Forum User B, what kind of music do you like? 

B: Nickelback! You should listen to them! They're not the worst band you could possibly listen to! I can name at least a handful that are far, far worse! They're so not completely terrible! 

[Vexer1]

ptdebate- I fail to see your point, whether certain games are "mediocre" as a matter of opinion, and IMO Perfect Dark Zero is a pretty good game. Also I didn't list THAT many games, there's several I could've listed but left off.

There's really no need for sarcasm, it's not clever or funny in this instance at all

I can easily name dozens and dozens of bands that are FAR worse then you know who, but I didn't want to make two long lists in one post.

[pacguy191]

[QUOTE=Vexer]I can easily name dozens and dozens of bands that are FAR worse then you know who, but I didn't want to make two long lists in one post.[/QUOTE]
You're still going on about people not liking Nickelback?

Thread derailment at its finest.

But seriously, half the games you listed were mediocre at best. Personal enjoyment out of a game and objective quality are two different things. Stop equating them.

[ptdebate1]

[QUOTE=Vexer]

ptdebate- I fail to see your point, whether certain games are "mediocre" as a matter of opinion, and IMO Perfect Dark Zero is a pretty good game. Also I didn't list THAT many games, there's several I could've listed but left off.

There's really no need for sarcasm, it's not clever or funny in this instance at all

I can easily name dozens and dozens of bands that are FAR worse then you know who, but I didn't want to make two long lists in one post.

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It's an understandable failure, since you seem to misunderstand the meaning of "opinion." You may hold the incorrect "opinion" that you write with acceptable grammar. I would respond with the correct "opinion" that, in fact, a comma is required both before and after the "IMO" clause, that you ought to have typed "is" rather than "as," and that the sentence beginning "There's really" is a run-on.

Sure, everyone is entitled to an opinion. Not all opinions are equal though.

As for Perfect Dark: what do we thing, VGC Forum-goers? Is it "pretty good" or does the consensus lean more in the direction of "mediocre in every way"?

 

[Oltobaz1]

This thread's title is appropriate. 

[Segatarious1]

[QUOTE=ptdebate]

As for Perfect Dark: what do we thing, VGC Forum-goers? Is it "pretty good" or does the consensus lean more in the direction of "mediocre in every way"?

 

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The single player is mediocre or bad in my opinion. I quit playing it before completing it, I know that. Way too many cut scenes, and really poor quality and generic through out.

I thought the mulitplayer was pretty fun. The updated Bond levels looked good. Some of the weapons got too 'techy'; for my tastes, but there was a lot of fun to be had with PD mulitplayer.

[Vexer1]

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Reason: juvenile nonsense.

[ptdebate1]

[QUOTE=Segatarious][QUOTE=ptdebate]

As for Perfect Dark: what do we thing, VGC Forum-goers? Is it "pretty good" or does the consensus lean more in the direction of "mediocre in every way"?

 

[/QUOTE]

The single player is mediocre or bad in my opinion. I quit playing it before completing it, I know that. Way too many cut scenes, and really poor quality and generic through out.

I thought the mulitplayer was pretty fun. The updated Bond levels looked good. Some of the weapons got too 'techy'; for my tastes, but there was a lot of fun to be had with PD mulitplayer.[/QUOTE]

By the way, everyone--we were talking about Perfect Dark Zero. I forgot to add the "Zero" in that last post .

[Vexer1]

Pacguy19- Whether half of those games are "mediocre" is merely your opinion not a fact, i'm not equating anything to objective equality here so I have no idea what you're going on about.

Ptdebate- Perfect Dark Zero's score on Metacritic is 81, so i'd say the majority think it's a pretty good game or at least a decent one.