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Posted: December 29th, 2006, 6:05 pm
by m0zart1
[QUOTE=ActRaiser]

It was a joke, also known as an attempt at humor.  Mozart, lighten up the new years almost here.

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There was no attempt at humor here in Shawn's implication that Nintendo refuses to go online.  That was very serious, as is obvious in his "retort".


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Posted: December 29th, 2006, 8:59 pm
by Adamant1
[QUOTE=Shawn]As far as I am concerned I think if the Wii could play dvd's that would be a better selling point.
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DVD players go for like 50$, if you don't happen to have one connected to your living room TV. Which you probably already do, as do the general public. A web browser, however, is something you probably don't have close to your TV, or anywhere near a comfortable coach, again, just like the general public. There's no point in including something the majority already has.

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Posted: December 30th, 2006, 7:24 am
by bluemonkey1

Web browser + low definition display = failure (see WebTV, Dreamcast, etc.)

 

I don't have a DVD player neither do any of my male friends.  We all use Playstations or XBoxes.

 

A console without online games is a joke in this day and age.


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Posted: December 30th, 2006, 10:46 am
by Adamant1
[QUOTE=bluemonkey]

I don't have a DVD player neither do any of my male friends.  We all use Playstations or XBoxes.

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They're still DVD players, and were released before DVD players became as cheap as they currently are. If you don't own a DVD player in this time and age (counting consoles with DVD players as DVD players here), you don't have enough of an interest in them to give a damn whether the Wii has a DVD player or not. There's no point in including something no one wants.


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Posted: December 30th, 2006, 12:01 pm
by voor
[QUOTE=feilong80]

I'd vote "yes" for the Wii internet function. It doesn't cost anything to use the trail version, and when it does cost something, it is a princely sum of five dollars. If all I ever use it for is the occasional youtube session, then whatever. Works for me. I like it and use it to casually surf blogs and check email (though I don't actually respond, since it is inneficient).  

 

If the Wii was marketed as a machine that allowed one to surf the internet, I'd be more critical of the many shortcomings that surfing the net on the Wii has. But internet browsing is a little bonus, so I find it silly that people are dissecting it that much.

 

Also, I personally applaud Nintendo for actually caring about morality at all (if that is really what it is). I don't mind violence in games all that much (depends on the context), I appreciate that there is a company that families can turn to and be able to depend on somewhat. Every major must have game I can remember for Nintendo is basically OK for kids, yet I would be uncomfortable allowing a child under 12 years old play Gears of War. If that makes them the morality police, so be it. The market is all about choice so if that bothers you, just play with Microsoft and Sony's products.

 

-Rob

 

 

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I agree with this all the way.  I was at my prime (15) during the 64-PS1 era and the generation after that really started pushing 'adult' games.  Yea, I know, those systems had violence and profanity, but the xbox and PS2 brought it to another level.  The first game I played I think was FarCry, and I could not believe what I was hearing.

 

I absolutely hate profanity in games.  My younger brother (17), the first time he showed me Gears of War, turned down the 'dialogue volume' (he didnt think I was paying attention). 

 

What's the consensus?  Do people like more violence (even if it adds to realism?)  What about profanity?


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Posted: December 30th, 2006, 1:00 pm
by sega saturn x

Anyone saying multimedia consoles are pointless clearly doesn't have a 360, because it seriously just nails it.  I hear the ps3 does a pretty good job with it as well.


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Posted: December 30th, 2006, 4:10 pm
by bluemonkey1

Yeah the media streaming from the PC with 360 is great.  Your entire music collection straight into custom soundtracks.

 

Personally I am so glad we finally have realistic profanity in games.  I like hearing them swear in Gears.  Let's me honest most of us in that situation would be swearing every 5 seconds.  Profanity is nothing compared to violence.  I mean people are having their heads stamped on, a little swearing is nothing compared to one of the most horribly violent acts you can do.  When the characters swear in Gears it helps release some of the tension and also adds to the realism of the game.


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Posted: December 30th, 2006, 5:25 pm
by ActRaiser1
[QUOTE=m0zart][QUOTE=ActRaiser]

It was a joke, also known as an attempt at humor.  Mozart, lighten up the new years almost here.

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There was no attempt at humor here in Shawn's implication that Nintendo refuses to go online.  That was very serious, as is obvious in his "retort".

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Well, you can look at it in two ways. 

 

1.  It was a joke and kind of funny.

 

OR.

 

2. It was a joke, kind of funny, and true.  There are no online games on Nintendo's consoles short of the same games I played on my Dreamcast 5 years ago.  Don't get me wrong playing PSO is fun and all, just not worth playing 5 years in a row.

 

Nintendo could have spent the extra time making Mario Kart online for the gamecube but ended up only supporting the broadband adapter.  Who gets together with 8 friends to play gamecube? 

 

Suck it up Mozart, you're wrong.


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Posted: December 30th, 2006, 6:36 pm
by m0zart1
[QUOTE=ActRaiser]Well, you can look at it in two ways. 

 

1.  It was a joke and kind of funny.

 

OR.

 

2. It was a joke, kind of funny, and true. [/QUOTE]

 

I am afraid not.  I don't think it was either funny or true.  If it was a joke, it was a poor excuse for one.

 

[QUOTE=ActRaiser]There are no online games on Nintendo's consoles short of the same games I played on my Dreamcast 5 years ago.  Don't get me wrong playing PSO is fun and all, just not worth playing 5 years in a row.

 

Nintendo could have spent the extra time making Mario Kart online for the gamecube but ended up only supporting the broadband adapter.  Who gets together with 8 friends to play gamecube? 

 

Suck it up Mozart, you're wrong.[/QUOTE]

 

If we were somehow talking about the Gamecube and not the Wii, then you can rest assured I would freely admit I was wrong.  Nintendo's attitude when encountering such new ideas they didn't themselves author was typical in the early years of the Gamecube of the arrogance some of their officials have become known for.

 

But we weren't talking about the Gamecube.  We were talking about the Wii.  The Wii purposefully includes online capabilities which game developers can take advantage of built in to the console.  The fact that there are no games yet for the Wii that take advantage of that is something I and others more than expected at release, as Nintendo and those developers announced such a thing well in advance.  But that is NOT tantamount to Nintendo "refusing to support online gaming" in respect to the Wii, given that the Wii specifically has those features for future use in non-release-window games, and it won't be regardless of how many haters proclaim it loudly.

 

In this case, it is you (and Shawn) who have to, as they say, "suck it up".