Where are the PS3 Reviews?

[bluemonkey1]

Mozart there are a number of very good technical reasons for prefering wired:

 

1.  Wireless is a very lossy medium compared to wired with tons of collisions which is pretty much lossless over small household areas.  Data speeds are therefore higher in wired but more importantly there is a tightly bounded delay on the data (which is a far more important characteristic).  For isochronous data used by games wireless is a much worse idea.  This becomes very important for when you are hosting a ten player ridge racer room with everyone chatting away on their headsets.  In such situations a wireless setup will have a lot more lag compared with the wired one.

 

2.  This is worsened by the fact that the wireless medium is also being used by tons of other stuff - custom soundtrack streaming from the pc, any wireless remotes/dongles used with mobiles and laptops and the neighbour's wireless which will also cause a bunch of collisions within your own wireless network as they will geographically overlap - if he is torrenting say goodbye to a nice low ping.

 

3.  Wired routers are half the price of wireless ones.

 

4.  Some wireless routers still have security loopholes even when setup correctly to filter by exact MAC address.

 

So those Gamespotters you came across are actually quite well informed.  That's why I went with a wired setup.

 

Also there is NO NEED to buy the $100 official wireless adapter.  Any old cheap one will do for a small fraction of that price.  A number of ISPs give them away as well.

[Adamant1]

[QUOTE=The Video Game Critic]Since I am a video game nut, I absolutely will snag a PS3 as soon as I see one on a store shelf (same with the Wii).  However, I'm not sure what games I would buy for it.  From what I can tell, Resistance is the best game for it, but I haven't heard squat about any other games.  Not a good sign. [/QUOTE]

Genji 2 and Ridge Racer 7 seems to be the most talked about games for the system so far. But yeah, there isn't much to be excited about on the thing so far.

[Crevalle]

Did Sony have a great game when they launched the PS2?  I honestly don't remember.  If not, wasn't it sort of the same thing as we're seeing now?  Either way, the PS3 will be fine. 

[Atarifever1]

[QUOTE=Crevalle]  Either way, the PS3 will be fine. 
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People keep saying this and I don't understand why.  The Gamecube and N64 didn't do "fine" by Nintendo's earlier standards, Sega didn't do "fine", Atari didn't do "fine".  Why does everyone think no matter what the PS3 will do fine. 
It costs more than the competition, it was released later than its main competitor, it only has a budget matching that of its main compeditor, it has lost the exclusivity window of one of it's main weapons (GTA) and lost one huge title for one market to a competitors machine (Dragon Quest to DS), both compeditors have been matching it for hype, it isusing an unproven, expensive format, it does some things less well than either of the other companies offerings (sixaxis is no Wiimote, its online is no live), and it experienced one of the worst shortages and software to hardware sell ratios ever during a Christmas launch when both compeditors had more systems available.  How is it possible they are invincible after all that?  It is quite possible they, like companies before them, will not just be fine. 

[m0zart1]

[QUOTE=The Video Game Critic]What did the Sony representative say about the price?
"Just work harder"  What a jerk.

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*shakes his head*  I tell ya, I do believe that Sony's arrogance as a company has to be rivaling Nintendo's at this point, even when that company was at its worst.

[Crevalle]

[QUOTE=Atarifever][QUOTE=Crevalle]  Either way, the PS3 will be fine. 
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People keep saying this and I don't understand why.  The Gamecube and N64 didn't do "fine" by Nintendo's earlier standards, Sega didn't do "fine", Atari didn't do "fine".  Why does everyone think no matter what the PS3 will do fine. 
It costs more than the competition, it was released later than its main competitor, it only has a budget matching that of its main compeditor, it has lost the exclusivity window of one of it's main weapons (GTA) and lost one huge title for one market to a competitors machine (Dragon Quest to DS), both compeditors have been matching it for hype, it isusing an unproven, expensive format, it does some things less well than either of the other companies offerings (sixaxis is no Wiimote, its online is no live), and it experienced one of the worst shortages and software to hardware sell ratios ever during a Christmas launch when both compeditors had more systems available.  How is it possible they are invincible after all that?  It is quite possible they, like companies before them, will not just be fine. 
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It's possible Sony will not be fine, because just about anything is possible, but I don't think it's likely.  I do not think Sony will rule this generation--I think Microsoft will.  But Sony is established, they have relationships, the most powerful hardware, and most importantly--a ton of cash.  I think other systems could have "made it" if they had virtually unlimited cash backing.  3DO, Jaguar, etc.  Who knows what may have been. 

You do realize that the xbox would have failed if it had been produced by a smaller company, right?  Did you know that the Microsoft xbox division has had just one profitable quarter since they launched the original xbox?  That was the quarter they released Halo 2.  The only reason Microsoft is still in the game is because they are a financial behemoth, and can absorb loss after loss.  I for one prefer having three consoles, and despite my abhorrence of Sony, I think we're all better off with them in the game, creating competition.  Lord knows I do not want just Microsoft and Nintendo.  Microsoft would eventually dominate due to their size and influence, and Nintendo could go the way of Sega--just software.

[Atarifever1]

[QUOTE=m0zart]I do believe that Sony's arrogance as a company has to be rivaling Nintendo's at this point, even when that company was at its worst.[/QUOTE]
It is just now rivaling that.  Barely.  I mean, Nintendo pretty much defined arrogant for awhile there and I was glad when they fell from top spot.  Very glad.  Given that Sony didn't make Super Mario Bros., Donkey Kong, and Metroid, I have even less reason to be sad if they fall.

[Atarifever1]

[QUOTE=Crevalle]

You do realize that the xbox would have failed if it had been produced by a smaller company, right?  Did you know that the Microsoft xbox division has had just one profitable quarter since they launched the original xbox?  That was the quarter they released Halo 2.  The only reason Microsoft is still in the game is because they are a financial behemoth, and can absorb loss after loss.  I for one prefer having three consoles, and despite my abhorrence of Sony, I think we're all better off with them in the game, creating competition.  Lord knows I do not want just Microsoft and Nintendo.  Microsoft would eventually dominate due to their size and influence, and Nintendo could go the way of Sega--just software.
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Dig through the back logs and see the pages worth of stuff I've written about this.  I've argued that the Xbox hasn't even been a success yet, as all the proof it has been one depends on them eventually making a profit on the 360, which hasn't happened yet.  I'm well aware where they stand, and the Xbox line could still prove to be a very big failure (as a product line that lost billions just to barely beat a company that was making billions, and that only sold a fraction of the hardware and software of the industry leader).  Thus it could be an utter and complete failure unlike any before it in the industry (I mean we're potentially talking taking huge losses for more than one generation just to bow out embarrassed without ever really making money).   However, I don't think Microsoft is in as much danger of failing as Sony is of dropping top spot to them.  Thus, we seem to be largley in agreement.  I don't think Sony or even Sony Computer Entertainemnt will fail like, say, Sega yet, but I do believe it is possible for the PS3 specifically to do very poorly as a Sony system.  Kind of like the Sony N64.  Not a bomb, but a very clear indication of a change of guard that could lead to more slipping.

[Shawn]

What I find most interesting is everybody is forgetting the incredible games that Sony or its 3rd parties have delivered over the last ten years. What do you people think? That is going to stop? Let's face it, the Wii's heavy hitters for 2007 is MORE Mario, MORE party games, MORE Metroid, MORE Animal Crossing, etc, etc. BORING! I am sure it is only a matter of time before a Mario Kart game is released. I don't see one new franchise for the Wii in 2007 that is interesting at all. Project Hammer? Wow! I get to use the Wiimote as a hammer! Sweet!

 

 

Now I know Sony is milking there own franchises (for all it's worth) but at least Resistance, Lair and Motorstorm are new to the scene. And there are others on the way. Of course, it will take more PS3 specific games to sell systems but it will happen.

 

I think the bottom line is buy which system you want! I think the Wii is lame. Ok, I won't buy it. The PS3 is incredible and has unbelievable potential. OK, I will buy it. Who cares? Can't we all just get along?

 

 

[Atarifever1]

[QUOTE=Shawn]

What I find most interesting is everybody is forgetting the incredible games that Sony or its 3rd parties have delivered over the last ten years. What do you people think? That is going to stop?

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Yes, I think the 3rd party stuff could largely stop. 
Let's see, exclusivity window of GTA that was huge for Sony: Gone.
Next Dragon Quest on a Sony system: Gone
Guitar Hero exclusivity: Gone

This is the big stuff that is already happening.  That's the problem with third party support: it chases the money.  Once pretty much every third party was dedicating 90% of it's resources to Atari, then to Nintendo.  I forget, but during their down times, how strong was third party support for Atari and Nintendo systems?  Third party support does stop if you don't move enough hardware.  That's a fact.