Ethics in videogames

m0zart1 · Postby **m0zart1** » January 3rd, 2007, 4:59 pm

[QUOTE=Quiet Flight][QUOTE]I guess in some sense all things stolen are free, at least to the one who does the stealing. Thank goodness the vast majority of the civilized world doesn't see things this way.[/QUOTE]
They do when it comes to emulation. I'm not talking about carjacking, robbing stores, etc.[/QUOTE]

You don't have to be talking about carjacking, robbing stores, etc. All you have to be talking about is theft of intellectual property, which is just as valid as any other form of property by any objective standard.

Quiet Flight · Postby **Quiet Flight** » January 3rd, 2007, 5:15 pm

I agree it's stealing. It is definitely not to the degree as the other examples. I'm going to do it anyway and so are the majority of people.

m0zart1 · Postby **m0zart1** » January 3rd, 2007, 5:23 pm

[QUOTE=Quiet Flight]I agree it's stealing. It is definitely not to the degree as the other examples. I'm going to do it anyway and so are the majority of people.[/QUOTE]

Well at least you admit it.

P.S. Don't take this as praise or anything. It's not.

chrisbid1 · Postby **chrisbid1** » January 3rd, 2007, 6:14 pm

ps

get over yourself

ActRaiser1 · Postby **ActRaiser1** » January 3rd, 2007, 6:50 pm

[QUOTE=chrisbid]ps

get over yourself[/QUOTE]

Agreed!

m0zart1 · Postby **m0zart1** » January 3rd, 2007, 7:16 pm

[QUOTE=chrisbid]ps

get over yourself[/QUOTE]

It's always nice to see someone losing an argument resort to an ad hominem attack. It's a good sign not only that he's losing, but that he knows he is.

I tell ya what -- since you're the one advocating immoral (and for that matter, illegal) activity, get over yourself and give us an example of how it's done.

chrisbid1 · Postby **chrisbid1** » January 3rd, 2007, 7:28 pm

losing an argument?

you failed to counter anything i said about preserving history as you were too busy admiring yourself in the mirror

m0zart1 · Postby **m0zart1** » January 3rd, 2007, 7:32 pm

[QUOTE=chrisbid]losing an argument?

you failed to counter anything i said about preserving history as you were too busy admiring yourself in the mirror[/QUOTE]

I didn't need to say anything about it. Preserving history is not an excuse for violating property rights, or any human rights frankly. I thought that should be understood by default.

IP holders will gladly preserve the history for a price when they find that it's economically feasible to do so. It's up to them to decide that, because it's their property.

I had to skip a lot of your comments, and I guess I should apologize for that. I wasn't even sure if they were serious a lot of the time. For instance, the comment about corporations not representing people -- that one is hard to follow up. Who do you think owns the corporation (and thus the corporate property)? Robots? There are plenty of stockholders here who wouldn't know how to take that statement either.

Thanks for the mirror comment by the way. Moving the debate away from the issues at hand and towards my character is almost as dishonest as the theft we're debating.