Kasavin leaves Gamespot

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JustLikeHeaven1
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Kasavin leaves Gamespot

Postby JustLikeHeaven1 » January 4th, 2007, 9:50 am

I just read an article on gamespot stating that Greg Kasavin is leaving Gamespot to purse a career as a "gamemaker".  The article didn't say which company that he would be relocating to, only that he would be working on one of his favorite franchises.

 

This is an interesting fate for a gaming journalist.  After all these years of being a critic, he finally has chance to make games better.  While I didn't always agree with his reviews, I still felt that he did the best work on that site.

 

Here is a link to the article...

 

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6163716.html?tag=latestnews;title;1


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Kasavin leaves Gamespot

Postby m0zart1 » January 4th, 2007, 10:29 am

[QUOTE=JustLikeHeaven]

I just read an article on gamespot stating that Greg Kasavin is leaving Gamespot to purse a career as a "gamemaker".  The article didn't say which company that he would be relocating to, only that he would be working on one of his favorite franchises.

 

This is an interesting fate for a gaming journalist.  After all these years of being a critic, he finally has chance to make games better.  While I didn't always agree with his reviews, I still felt that he did the best work on that site.

 

Here is a link to the article...

 

http://www.gamespot.com/news/6163716.html?tag=latestnews;title;1

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This year alone, three separate Gamespot journalists responsible for reviews have left Gamespot to take on responsiblities in the development of a game, Greg being the third.


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Kasavin leaves Gamespot

Postby JustLikeHeaven1 » January 4th, 2007, 10:41 am

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This year alone, three separate Gamespot journalists responsible for reviews have left Gamespot to take on responsiblities in the development of a game, Greg being the third.

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Sorry, thats the first I've heard of it.  Plus I think its a little bit bigger news when the editor in chief decides to leave a magainze/website.

 

In any case, I think that its an interesting career choice for any critic to work for a game company.  You finally get to help make a product you have been dissecting and analyzing for years.  I'm sure that day will finally come when Jeff Gerstmann has to write a review for Kasavin's project.  It should be fairly entertaining.

 

I would be very interested to find out what game franchise he will be working on.


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Kasavin leaves Gamespot

Postby m0zart1 » January 4th, 2007, 11:00 am

[QUOTE=JustLikeHeaven][QUOTE=m0zart]This year alone, three separate Gamespot journalists responsible for reviews have left Gamespot to take on responsiblities in the development of a game, Greg being the third.[/QUOTE]

Sorry, thats the first I've heard of it.  Plus I think its a little bit bigger news when the editor in chief decides to leave a magainze/website.

 

In any case, I think that its an interesting career choice for any critic to work for a game company.  You finally get to help make a product you have been dissecting and analyzing for years.  I'm sure that day will finally come when Jeff Gerstmann has to write a review for Kasavin's project.  It should be fairly entertaining.[/QUOTE]

 

I wasn't criticizing.  I was just letting you know that it went from being uncommon to suddenly becoming as common as three from one site alone.

 

And you're right.  Kasavin leaving Gamespot is a much bigger deal than Carrie Gouskos or Bob Colayco leaving.  Kasavin is responsible for the direction that Gamespot went in for the last six years.

 

I've always thought highly of him, but the other day I was talking with someone at psxextreme who had decidedly different opinions of him.  Apparently, Greg is better thought of by readers of Gamespot than he is with at least that video game journalist.


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Kasavin leaves Gamespot

Postby Edward M » January 4th, 2007, 11:08 am

Greg Kasavin could very well be the most famous video game journalist in America so I guess this is big news.  I always thought that his reviews were the best there.  He was always willing to give great underdog games (Such as painkiller)  the scores they deserved instead of going with the flow like the other places (I'm looking at you IGN)   I expect Gamespot to go downhill now, because all the new guys they keep bringing in aren't nearly as good of reviewers as him.   Especially Bethany M, who seems to give every game an A.


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Kasavin leaves Gamespot

Postby m0zart1 » January 4th, 2007, 11:14 am

[QUOTE=Edward M]

Greg Kasavin could very well be the most famous video game journalist in America so I guess this is big news.  I always thought that his reviews were the best there.  He was always willing to give great underdog games (Such as painkiller)  the scores they deserved instead of going with the flow like the other places (I'm looking at you IGN)   I expect Gamespot to go downhill now, because all the new guys they keep bringing in aren't nearly as good of reviewers as him.   Especially Bethany M, who seems to give every game an A.

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Not entirely.  She gave one of my favorite games, "Siren" for the PS2, a "Fair" score, which means in the 6.x range.  I've never forgiven her for that.

 

I sincerely hope that Jeff Gertsmann is NOT the new EIC.  Gamespot really will go downhill if that is the case.  I think Ricardo Torres or Alex Navarro are the best two candidates for the job.  Not only are they good and objective reviewers, but they contribute a LOT of extra work behind the scenes that many of us don't ever hear about.


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Kasavin leaves Gamespot

Postby JustLikeHeaven1 » January 4th, 2007, 1:16 pm

[QUOTE=m0zart][QUOTE=Edward M]

Especially Bethany M, who seems to give every game an A.

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Not entirely.  She gave one of my favorite games, "Siren" for the PS2, a "Fair" score, which means in the 6.x range.  I've never forgiven her for that.

 

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How much freedom do you guys think a editor has in the final score they give a game?  I always figured that they came up with a score and discussed with the EIC and then went and finished the review.  I figure this is true on especially high profile titles.

 

Anyways, I hear that Siren is a great, yet very flawed game...how can you be mad when she gave the game a 6.something while the game only scored a 7.0 on gamerankings?  If you like it why does it matter what some critic says?  Just curious.

 

 


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Kasavin leaves Gamespot

Postby m0zart1 » January 4th, 2007, 1:33 pm

[QUOTE=JustLikeHeaven]How much freedom do you guys think a editor has in the final score they give a game?  I always figured that they came up with a score and discussed with the EIC and then went and finished the review.  I figure this is true on especially high profile titles.[/QUOTE]

 

Normally, the reviewer in question get the final word.  However, the EIC can step in at times when he becomes convinced that there are factual errors in the review.  Kasavin did that with "Metroid Prime Hunters", after Bob Colayco made some glaring errors in his review.  "Shenmue" was also corrected after the fact, as well as a few multiplatform versions of "Tetris Worlds".

 

[QUOTE=JustLikeHeaven]Anyways, I hear that Siren is a great, yet very flawed game...how can you be mad when she gave the game a 6.something while the game only scored a 7.0 on gamerankings?  If you like it why does it matter what some critic says?  Just curious.[/QUOTE]

 

My anger is more tongue-in-cheek than real.  I loved "Siren".  It's one of my favorite survival horror games of all time at this point.  It took me MONTHS to finish that game.  It was hard as all get out.  It had Zombies (called Shibito) that were practically chess-players.  It was hard to avoid their glare or outwit them.  The game also throws you in with little to no training.  One little session teaches you how to sight-jack your enemies, but that's it.  So it's just a really really hard game, and I loved it for it.  I felt really fulfilled after finishing that game completely.

 

Having said all of that, I can easily see why the average person wouldn't like it at all.  It's sometimes too hard for its own good.  It's not the kind of game that you can just brute-force your way through, either.  It's all in the mind.  You basically do several missions either alone or with a companion (whom you must lead with a list box of commands), trying to get from point A to point B, or accomplish some other minor task.  The problem is that the area is chock full of these patrolling Shibito.  They are extremely aware of their surroundings, and fast runners.  They are also undying.  You can't kill them, but only stun them.  The only thing that you have at your disposal really is the odd weapon (which is usually worthless), and the sight-jacking ability.  Sight-jacking allows you to tune in like a radio to see and hear through the eyes and ears of anyone in the vicinity, including your companion but usually just the shibito that you are trying to escape.

 

You have to basically find a good hiding place, and then watch through the each of the shibitos' eyes in that given level, memorizing their usual patterns, as well as the layout of the landscape.  You have to figure out a good escape route all from this experience.  Sometimes the level is so big, that you can't tune into all the shibito, so you have to do the same thing in several segments in the same level.

 

To make matters even worse, there are some levels that have a time limit.  And some of those don't even show you the time limit on the screen.  You have to count yourself   It's done on purpose actually to make it just that much more difficult.  It's very tough!

 

So, while I think it's one of the greatest games of all time, and one game that I am truly proud to have finished, I can easily see why it didn't get much love.  Bethany's review actually miffed me a little more than the other poor reviews, partially because she tried to imply that the game was too easy.  HUH?  Did she get a different version of the game than I did?  Cause I tell ya, it SURE wasn't easy!


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Kasavin leaves Gamespot

Postby wur1 » January 4th, 2007, 5:48 pm

what are some games Kasavin reviewed?


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Postby Linkdude » January 4th, 2007, 6:25 pm

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what are some games Kasavin reviewed?

[/QUOTE]Mortal Kombat: Deception and Armageddon, Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, Perfect Dark Zero...


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