Controversial games subject (A.K.A. The government problems

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bluemonkey1
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Controversial games subject (A.K.A. The government problems

Postby bluemonkey1 » January 7th, 2007, 7:47 am

A sex minigame is poor taste?

 

In a game where you are encouraged to steal people's vehicles and then run them over with them?  A game which puts massive brutality into real world settings?  Sex is about the last thing you could call poor taste about Grand Theft Auto.  Though personally I think the games are great anyway.


Bartman

Controversial games subject (A.K.A. The government problems

Postby Bartman » January 7th, 2007, 11:46 am

Bartman is from The Simpsons. It is my favorite show. Hence the name Bartman: I really dont know the baseball character. Anyways, I look up other stuff than VGC's reviews. I say the ESRB is a complete failure. Night Trap is not bad although I never played it. Mortal Kombat was less violent on the Genesis, Game Gear, and CD although they had blood. SNES was censored. The thing with the ESRB failure is the parents and kids. Kids wil beg and beg for a violent game for PS2 + 3, Gamecube, Xbox, Xbox 360, and Wii(current generation games today). Parents will see the rating and say no. And the kids keep on begging and begging and begging until the parents give in and buy it. I hope they didnt bring their kids along. Parents will probably complain, the ones who dont play games.  

Bartman

Controversial games subject (A.K.A. The government problems

Postby Bartman » January 7th, 2007, 11:54 am

I forgot to say some things from my last reply. Yes the government dont know anything. They basically make lies. What they are trying to do is put bills and have them approved to protect children. They can't do anything to protect them. All I think I hear from videos about the government is that they make these lousy lies about Doom, GTA etc... You know what? Although I never played it, I might make a review about Night Trap from the videos I saw.


feilong801
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Controversial games subject (A.K.A. The government problems

Postby feilong801 » January 7th, 2007, 12:45 pm

[QUOTE=bluemonkey]

A sex minigame is poor taste?

 

In a game where you are encouraged to steal people's vehicles and then run them over with them?  A game which puts massive brutality into real world settings?  Sex is about the last thing you could call poor taste about Grand Theft Auto.  Though personally I think the games are great anyway.

[/QUOTE]

Trust me, I think GTA is entirely and completely in poor taste. Always hated the concept, so no, I do not excuse the rest of the game (or violence in games in general) and only hate on "hot coffee," just to be clear on that point.

 

My personal ethics on violence and brutality in games basically requires that the violence is used to defend oneself in a good vs. evil situation. As I see nothing wrong with executing a headshot on someone who is trying to kill me (and, in many games, invade my planet!). Most games fall comfortably in the paradigm, but I must admit that I still get a little uneasy with certain games such as Gears of War or Doom III, but of course that uneasy feeling is part of the feeling the creators or trying to get.

 

And, btw, Germany is crazy on this issue! While I would complain about certain things in games, I would never condone outright censorship. Wow.

 

-Rob

 


feilong801
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Controversial games subject (A.K.A. The government problems

Postby feilong801 » January 7th, 2007, 12:48 pm

Well, I'm not sure you can call ESRB ratings a failure just because some parents are moronic. I'm sure there are other families that use the information wisely. And the ratings are a gesture anyway; if they hadn't been proactive, the gov't might have tried to create a ratings system for them, a very bad idea. So if the ratings system kept that from happening, then it certainly did its job in my book.

 

-Rob


Bartman

Controversial games subject (A.K.A. The government problems

Postby Bartman » January 7th, 2007, 2:33 pm

Sorry. I just realized i did not make things specific. It is just the parents who have kids that are very young 4-10 years old. It is not the parents who have teenagers. The kids in the town I live in play violent games but are not influenced by games to kill or anything. Major stores like Wal-Mart are taking things seriously. They have people get their identity cards or something for someone young who buys an adult game. Sure the ESRB works, but it just does not work for the parents who hear too much begging from their 4 to 8 year olds to buy the violent games and then after buying it complain and then the government responds.

IronKnux

Controversial games subject (A.K.A. The government problems

Postby IronKnux » January 7th, 2007, 5:56 pm

I'm wholeheartedly surprised that Mercenaries: Playground of Destruction hasn't been mentioned (on this board, or just in general). The object of the game is to literally blow up North Korea and eradicate the government; of course, this is a staple in many third-person action games, but the fact that you have the ability to blow up many North Korean monuments (Heaven's Archway, PYongYang Hotel), and that actual city names are used is plain insulting to that nation's history, seeing as at one point the Korean peninsula was united.

feilong801
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Controversial games subject (A.K.A. The government problems

Postby feilong801 » January 7th, 2007, 8:29 pm

Is eradicating that totalitarian government really such a bad thing? I haven't played that game, but if the premise is as simple as getting rid of that evil regime, than I hardly see a problem with that.

 

-Rob


Bartman

Controversial games subject (A.K.A. The government problems

Postby Bartman » January 8th, 2007, 3:35 pm

I really dont know that game where you blow up North Korea. That could be banned by the government. Anyways one of the people who want to ban games, Clinton, wants to run for president. That could mean trouble for gamers. To be honest, I played violent games. I played the Genesis, and Playstation Mortal Kombat, PC and Playstation Doom 1 and 2, all Grand Theft Auto games from 1998 to 2005, and Wolfenstein 3-D. I never played Night Trap for Sega CD and 32x, and 3DO. It is not violent. I dont understand how it got banned. There is no blood or gore or anything. It is sort of like late night shows on TV for Night Trap. Mortal Kombat is violent but less violent on the Genesis, CD, Game Gear, and SNES. The government could have waited at least one year to see how good it was on the systems. Doom in 1999 was the blame for the Columbine shootings. I mean, it was ported to Atari Jaguar, Sega 32x, 3DO, Sega Saturn, N64 and Playstation. But there was other blames such as films and music. It seems like people want to go to Sony only to make games for their systems. Put games on Nintendo and Microsoft's systems. Someone's got to speak to the government if they actually played games, even the violent ones at all. All they ever do is set up a bunch of lies of the games.


bluemonkey1
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Controversial games subject (A.K.A. The government problems

Postby bluemonkey1 » January 9th, 2007, 4:46 am

feilong you'd be okay with a game to topple the US then right?



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