IGN.com picks the PS3 as console of the year

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feilong801
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IGN.com picks the PS3 as console of the year

Postby feilong801 » January 17th, 2007, 12:55 pm

Well, let the flaming begin! A quote from the IGN boys:

 

Nintendo's Wii launched to massive mainstream applause and a lot of hope has been placed in the potential for gaming innovation via the console's unique controller. Nintendo disappointed some, however, by choosing not embrace HDTV or to compete with Sony and Microsoft in processing power. The Wii can't even play normal DVDs.

Judging the consoles based upon a broad perspective that includes software now available and coming in the future an entirely different argument could be formulated. However, from a hardware perspective, the PS3 is by far the more interesting console. Though the launch software hasn't blown anyone away, the 360's launch titles were equally unimpressive, and the system will certainly mature. Sony's embrace of the PS3 as a computer rather than just a console, and the availability of supported Linux distributions for the console will also develop and will likely bear entirely unexpected fruit in future.

 

Personally, this harkens back to our discussion about judging a console based on its amazing potential. It seems that, no matter how well the Wii does, IGN continued to be seduced by its supposed power under the hood. Sort of ridiculous, if you ask me.

 

-Rob



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IGN.com picks the PS3 as console of the year

Postby m0zart1 » January 17th, 2007, 1:20 pm

[QUOTE=feilong80]Personally, this harkens back to our discussion about judging a console based on its amazing potential. It seems that, no matter how well the Wii does, IGN continued to be seduced by its supposed power under the hood. Sort of ridiculous, if you ask me.[/QUOTE]

 

I could have predicted that last year.  In fact, I could have predicted that five years ago.

 

I've explained this problem with IGN before, but I'll do it again because I don't think it's obvious to everyone.  Unlike Gamespot, where every editor is exposed to every system, including odd systems like N-Gage and cell phone games, IGN is divided into fanboy departments.  Each department is as large as the demand for that console calls for.  As there are more games for the PS2, there are more editors and journalists on the PS2 team.  When a new console like the PS3 comes around, they offload from one console to the other gradually -- PS1 to PS2 to PS3.  It works the same with XBOX to XBOX 360, and N64 to Gamecube to Wii.

 

Now when their "Of the Year" awards start coming out, any category that is specific, such as "DS GOTY" stays strictly in the DS department, and the same for "PS2 GOTY", etc.  But awards that span platforms are different.  Each journalist across the organization has a vote.  Remember, the PS2 department, all of which will eventually move to the PS3 department as the PS2 dies out and the PS3 gains in popularity, is larger than the rest of the departments combined.  This means in translation that PS2 games have a much better chance to win GOTY.  It also means that PS3 as console of the year was practically in the bag, even if Sony had only released 10 consoles at launch instead of 200 thousand.

 

Remember when RE4 was getting GOTY all over the place last year?  IGN not only awarded "God of War" GOTY instead, but the margin of votes was overwhelmingly in its favor.  As they said themselves, and I paraphrase, RE4 was a great game but it wasn't even close to winning GOTY based on the tally.  Now I have no problem with "God of War" winning GOTY.  It was an awesome game.  I felt that that game and RE4 would really be in close competition with each other.  But to say that the competition wasn't even close is a clear sign of console bias in this case.  This year, when games like Gears of War and Zelda are winning practically everywhere, I was absolutely sure that IGN's GOTY would be either Final Fantasy XII, Bully, or Okami.  I was right.

 

IGN's organization is a problem not just because of how it gerrymanders the annual awards, but because of how it allows every department to overhype their fandomed product.  IGN overhypes the Wii only because it's the new Wii department that is covering it, made up of consumate Nintendo fanboys like Matt Casamassina who have made up their N64 and Gamecube departments since the beginning, is in the business of overhyping.


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IGN.com picks the PS3 as console of the year

Postby Atarifever1 » January 17th, 2007, 1:22 pm

[QUOTE=IGN]
Who cares what we think, as we are, without a doubt, retarded.

[/QUOTE]
That's what I read.

Funkmaster V

IGN.com picks the PS3 as console of the year

Postby Funkmaster V » January 17th, 2007, 2:36 pm

[QUOTE=feilong80]

Well, let the flaming begin! A quote from the IGN boys:

 

Nintendo's Wii launched to massive mainstream applause and a lot of hope has been placed in the potential for gaming innovation via the console's unique controller. Nintendo disappointed some, however, by choosing not embrace HDTV or to compete with Sony and Microsoft in processing power. The Wii can't even play normal DVDs.

Judging the consoles based upon a broad perspective that includes software now available and coming in the future an entirely different argument could be formulated. However, from a hardware perspective, the PS3 is by far the more interesting console. Though the launch software hasn't blown anyone away, the 360's launch titles were equally unimpressive, and the system will certainly mature. Sony's embrace of the PS3 as a computer rather than just a console, and the availability of supported Linux distributions for the console will also develop and will likely bear entirely unexpected fruit in future.

 

Personally, this harkens back to our discussion about judging a console based on its amazing potential. It seems that, no matter how well the Wii does, IGN continued to be seduced by its supposed power under the hood. Sort of ridiculous, if you ask me.

 

-Rob


[/QUOTE]

 

How this award went to the PS3 instead of the 360 or the Wii is beyond me. Hell, here is how I would have rated them:

 

1) 360

2) Wii

3) DS

4) PS2

5) PS3

 

Funkmaster V


Shawn

IGN.com picks the PS3 as console of the year

Postby Shawn » January 17th, 2007, 3:44 pm

Can you provide the link? I would rate them like this:

 

1) PS2

2) 360

3) DS (I personally think this system is crap but you can't deny its success)

4) PSP

5) Wii & PS3 (I think both of their launches were mediocre, if you take away Zelda and Resistance there isn't much left)

 


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IGN.com picks the PS3 as console of the year

Postby bluemonkey1 » January 17th, 2007, 4:12 pm

You can't spell ignorant without IGN.

 

GameRevolution named the 360 console of the year, big whoop.


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IGN.com picks the PS3 as console of the year

Postby a1 » January 17th, 2007, 4:41 pm

[QUOTE=Shawn]

 

3) DS (I personally think this system is crap but you can't deny its success)

 

[/QUOTE]

Ya finally said it! You keep saying I love my DS but it has no games, etc. etc. Thank you for finally saying you don't like it, plain and clear.

 

Anyway, about the whole topic thingy. I think individual game reviews on ign are usually okay. The score is usually off, but the reviews tend to give the strengths and weaknesses better than other websites. The tv reviews however, are awful, and their yearly votes are even worse. I'm glad m0zart explained it to me, because I was clueless as to how Okami (Zelda but worse) won game of the year instead of Zelda (actually Zelda), or even Gears of War. I was completely clueless as to how it swept their awards.


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IGN.com picks the PS3 as console of the year

Postby VideoGameCritic » January 17th, 2007, 6:24 pm

This just in:

The Video Game Critic has declared the 1996 Console of the Year to be:

The Odyssey 2.


Steerforth

IGN.com picks the PS3 as console of the year

Postby Steerforth » January 17th, 2007, 7:39 pm

It makes no sense to give a console an award for "potential".  And thats all I got to say about that.


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IGN.com picks the PS3 as console of the year

Postby a1 » January 18th, 2007, 1:32 am

This is from an ign Wii editor:

 

[QUOTE]Matt responds: Thanks for the comments, Pierce. I agree completely and hope I made my position clear in the video and written roundtables. It is an unfortunate possibility that the Game of the Year may not always be the best game, but rather the best game played by the majority of editors. I was expecting Zelda to lose for exactly that reason and I was quite confident that Gears of War would win. The Okami win surprised me and, the more I thought about it, pissed me off. Clearly the editors chose a game that felt new, but the truth of the matter is that Okami's stylized presentation is its only pioneering attribute. It does not deliver a new gameplay experience. Twilight Princess, by comparison, is deeper, more intuitive, better balanced, and ultimately much more entertaining by just about any measure. [/QUOTE]

 

That's pretty harsh against the other editors I'd say, and it says exactly what we all thought.

 

 



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