Page 2 of 3

Sony settles vibration suit

Posted: March 4th, 2007, 10:39 am
by Shawn

I didn't turn into anything. All I am saying is that it is too early to say the PS3 is a failure. I know I am buying one, I am just waiting for Motorstorm to be released. If a year from now they have only moved 10 million units is that a failure? If so then I guess the 360 is a failure too. Don't forget it's where you finish, not where you start that counts. I believe the PS2 got off to a similar start.


Sony settles vibration suit

Posted: March 4th, 2007, 2:15 pm
by JustLikeHeaven1
Yea I agree with Shawn on this one.  The system has been out for a few months.  The Wii is smoking it and if you want to call it a failure because of that then thats fine.  The PS3 is on the same track as the 360 was last year.  I find it hard to call it a failure.  A disappointment maybe, but not a failure.

Sony settles vibration suit

Posted: March 4th, 2007, 3:47 pm
by andrew
[QUOTE=JustLikeHeaven]Yea I agree with Shawn on this one.  The system has been out for a few months.  The Wii is smoking it and if you want to call it a failure because of that then thats fine.  The PS3 is on the same track as the 360 was last year.  I find it hard to call it a failure.  A disappointment maybe, but not a failure.
[/QUOTE]

It is to early to call but if sony and microsoft want to compete, make their systems more reliable. As no suprise, the 360 was out of order at ebgames while the PS3 seems to stop working by the end of the day at many stores. Nintendo's system is easily the most reliable. As for graphics, there are legions of people who play vintage games because of their originality and fun factor, not looks. Nintendo is giving these people exactly what they want, innovation and fun over looks. As for me, I don't seem to care anymore about new systems at all.

Sony settles vibration suit

Posted: March 4th, 2007, 3:52 pm
by Edward M

[QUOTE=JustLikeHeaven]Yea I agree with Shawn on this one.  The system has been out for a few months.  The Wii is smoking it and if you want to call it a failure because of that then thats fine.  The PS3 is on the same track as the 360 was last year.  I find it hard to call it a failure.  A disappointment maybe, but not a failure.
[/QUOTE]

 

The standards for Sony are much higher than the standards for Microsoft.   The PS2 sold over 100 million systems while the game cube and xbox both sold around 25 million.  The fact that it has gone from 1st place dominating to 3rd place in one generation is a failure.  Now I'm just calling the 1st year of the system a failure.   It still has several years left and maybe Sony could turn it around.   But at this point the PS3 is nothing but a failure.  And the fact that you are even comparing it to the Xbox 360 is proof of it.  The PS3 should not be doing about the same as the 360.  It should smoke it, and the fact that it isn't doing it is a sign its a failure.  

 

In another analogy, lets say that Windows Vista sells about the same as the Macintosh OS (Extremely unlikely)  We would call that a huge failure because Microsoft has dominated the competition for the past 15-20 years.  The same for Sony.  Sony has dominated the competition for the past 10 years.  If it does about the same as a competitor, its a huge failure because of its expectations.  But its even worse for Sony.  Not only is it doing about the same as a competitor (actually worse)   It is also being outsold by another competitor 3 to 1.   That is just an insane fall from greatness and by any definition, a failure.  I expect plenty of people to get fired from Sony because of this.


Sony settles vibration suit

Posted: March 4th, 2007, 4:52 pm
by JustLikeHeaven1
Edward M, you make good points and I will not disagree with anything you said.  Sony f*ed up alot in the months prior to the launch of the PS3.  Yet I think they take more heat simply because of the unlikely success of the Wii.  If the Wii was simply doing the same as the PS3 it wouldn't even be that big of deal. 

As far as I can remember the Playstation brand has never been a runaway success during the launch periods.  The PS3 is pretty much moving along at the status quo of Sony's past systems.  The PS2 didn't have a good launch lineup, and the first year was pretty bleak for games overall.  Yet once the games come so did the consumers.  I expect it to be the same for the PS3.  Its not going to be the same as the PS2 and if you some people are going to call them a failure because of that.  The competiton is much better than last generation and that is why Sony will lose some of its market share.  In the end it will still be a great gaming machine...thats all that matters to me, I could care less who "wins" the next gen war.


Sony settles vibration suit

Posted: March 4th, 2007, 6:09 pm
by Funkmaster V

This is much nicer, but this has turned into another Sony sucks no it doesn't thread.

 

On the vibration issue, didn't the CEO say that vibration doesn't matter in the interview where he called the Wii an impulse buy?

 

Cousin Vinnie


Sony settles vibration suit

Posted: March 4th, 2007, 7:10 pm
by Sudz1
I really don't want to get involved in a PS3 vs. Wii vs. 360 argument, but since the topic has sort of devolved into that I feel that I have to share my experience this morning.  Trying to help the Videogamecritic score a Wii, I called my local Target earlier today to ask them if they happened to have any Wii's in stock.  When I called I simply asked for the electronics department - they guy who answered the phone said "Ok, hold one second... WAIT!  Are you calling about the Wii?"  I responded that yes, as a matter of fact I was.  He replied with "Well, we're all out of the Wii.  But we have several PS3's if you're interested in one of those!!!"  I couldn't help but laugh.
Sudz


Sony settles vibration suit

Posted: March 4th, 2007, 10:25 pm
by Steerforth

As far as I am concerned, lack of vibraton would not bother me, I always thought it was overated. The Wimote is the first controller that it is really a necessity, and really adds to the experience.

But I know most people don't agree with that, and I would be surprised if PS3 does not quietly make it standard (again) on their controllers. I remember when that lawsuit started, there was a possibilty that Sony would have had to pull all of their PS2's off of store shelves until the matter was settled, but that of course did not happen.  And apparently should not have happened, considering they won the case. On the other hand, God help anyone who goes toe to toe with the lawyers of a huge coroporation!


Sony settles vibration suit

Posted: March 4th, 2007, 11:12 pm
by JustLikeHeaven1
[QUOTE=Steerforth]

As far as I am concerned, lack of vibraton would not bother me, I always thought it was overated.

[/QUOTE]

I think I'm in the same boat as you on this.  When rumble is well implemented its great, sadly its hardly ever used that way.  The best use was Metal Gear Solid and that was on the Playstation 1.  Most times the rumble is non stop like an earthquake or it is too soft to notice.  Its a great feature, but it feel like an afterthought in most games.  I could care less if controllers had it in the future.  Does it feel cool to shoot a weapon and have the controller rumble?  Sure....back in 97 when  it was new to home consoles.

Sony settles vibration suit

Posted: March 4th, 2007, 11:28 pm
by Edward M
[QUOTE=JustLikeHeaven][QUOTE=Steerforth]

As far as I am concerned, lack of vibraton would not bother me, I always thought it was overated.

[/QUOTE]

I think I'm in the same boat as you on this.  When rumble is well implemented its great, sadly its hardly ever used that way.  The best use was Metal Gear Solid and that was on the Playstation 1.  Most times the rumble is non stop like an earthquake or it is too soft to notice.  Its a great feature, but it feel like an afterthought in most games.  I could care less if controllers had it in the future.  Does it feel cool to shoot a weapon and have the controller rumble?  Sure....back in 97 when  it was new to home consoles.
[/QUOTE]

 

 

Rumble is not the most important thing in the world, but it could lead to problems with multiplatform game sales.  Allow me to explain.  Im a gaming fanatic like most people here.  I already own the 360 and wii.  And I will be picking up the PS3 whenever the good games come out like MGS4 and Devil May Cry 4.  So basically, I will own all 3 systems.

 

My deal is, that even though rumble might seem like a minor deal,  it will probably be the deciding factor in me choosing the 360 version over the PS3 version of game.  That and the awesome gamerscore program.   It could be for many people also.