Wario: good or bad?

[m0zart1]

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[QUOTE=Alienblue] I'm an artist and know that black=abscence of color, white=all colors mixed together. [/QUOTE]

Did you mean the opposite?

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Yeah I was going to say.  In the physical color spectrum, black is the combination of all colors, while white is not a color at all.  In the spectrum of light, however, it's the opposite.  White light is a combination of all of the spectrum colors, while black is the absence of light.

At least that's how my rather limited and goofy art teacher once explained it.

[Alienblue]

Yes, I was talking about the LIGHT spectrum....RGB as opposed to Red yellow Blue of pigments?.... in light, pure white light shot through a prism will produce a rainbow. Black is the absence of light, thus the absence of colour. Photons! Photons Good! Negatrons bad! (wait...good idea for a puzzle game there!...)

[Anayo1]

This forum is really something unique. I think it's only here that a discussion about Wario could turn into a debate of existentialism versus objective morality.

[feilong801]

Actually, I liken this message board to an Ali G roundtable discussion.

Respek! (-:

-Rob

[voor]

It's amazing the power of sincerity.  You can be sincere in everything you do, and be sincerely wrong. 

Thats why I love the Bible, it gives us people who want to do the right thing some direction, because without it, we're just doing our best to figure out correct decisions in life based on our and others' expereinces, which isnt always the answer.

[hi there]

Come on guys, its a VIDEO GAME, you're thinking too deeply about this.

[m0zart1]

[QUOTE=hi there]Come on guys, its a VIDEO GAME, you're thinking too deeply about this.[/QUOTE]

So?  I consider video games to be art.  They are capable of communicating values through their medium, good or bad.  It's impossible to think too deeply about such values.

[Alienblue]

Actually, mOzart, we may be over-defining things here in video games at that. Truly, most older games were shades of grey. Mario was the hero, but he sure stomped on a lot of goombas and koopas just to save one princess. Here we could say he was wrong since "the needs of the many..." , but it's the way videogames are. You aren't really killing ANYthing, they come back to "life" in the next game. (I think it's called cartoon violence.) I agree it's fascinating how these threads evolve into other subjects.

My point on Wario, is, his mannerisms, while silly and harmless for adults, may be a bit too much for our VERY impressionable young kids, who play these games too. So your kid picks his nose and farts but "WARIO DOES IT!"...that's just gross, but what if he STEALS and says "BUT WARIO STEALS TOO! HE SAYS ITS GOOD!" - I know , most kids are smarter than that but even then they could use his behavior as an excuse..it just makes me wonder..I'm not saying they should ditch Wario but maybe his games should be "Age Ten and up" at least, while Mario is ok for all ages?

[Quill]

LOL!

This is going to turn into a discussion about video games as art now isn't it? I think this thread wins the award for most tangents ever.

Seriously, with all due respect this is the most absurd thread I've ever read in these forums anyways. I'll bet by the time this is all done we'll be having a debate about the significance of the Futurists movement and  how it relates to Nazi Germany.

[m0zart1]

[QUOTE=Alienblue]Actually, mOzart, we may be over-defining things here in video games at that. Truly, most older games were shades of grey. Mario was the hero, but he sure stomped on a lot of goombas and koopas just to save one princess. Here we could say he was wrong since "the needs of the many..." , but it's the way videogames are.[/QUOTE]

Well I never accepted, and will likely never accept, the "needs of many" argument.  Of course, I am a hard individualist, and define my ethics as such.  But I especially wouldn't accept it in terms of fighting against another person or persons to secure your life or that of a loved one who is violating it.  It's just a video game, right?  So we all know that before I continue -- but in the story the Goombas were bad guys, as well as the Koopas.  They were willing to harm Mario/Luigi, and prevent him from saving a kidnapped loved one.  Sounds like they deserve being stomped to me

[QUOTE=Alienblue]You aren't really killing ANYthing, they come back to "life" in the next game. (I think it's called cartoon violence.) I agree it's fascinating how these threads evolve into other subjects.[/QUOTE]

You could say that about any art medium though.  Movies are played over and over again.  They are fixed sequences, but they always start with everything undone.  A painting of violence is an act basically frozen in time.

[QUOTE=Quill]I'll bet by the time this is all done we'll be having a debate about the significance of the Futurists movement and  how it relates to Nazi Germany. [/QUOTE]

If we're lucky.