Alls I am saying is how many times do you plan on watching the movie? If it is a crappy movie once is too much, but how many good movies do you really watch more than 2 or 3 times? So you are spending $10 - $15 a pop and then it sits on your shelf. Now you feel like you should buy more discs to justify what you spent on the player. Are you going to upgrade your DVD collection? Where does it end? When will the next format be announced?
Honestly, I think some people could be durn near sold on the idea of having a test patern in high def.
Bluray/High def-what next?
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Quill
Bluray/High def-what next?
I've been turning the Movie theater problem over in my head for some time now. I can remember when I was a little kid that if I went to the theater, any theater on Saturday or Friday it was guaranteed to be packed.
Just a few weeks ago I went to see TMNT on opening weekend around 8 or 9 pm... a prime time movie going time. Maybe... maybe half the seats were filled. Theaters are becoming a thing of the past or that's the way it looks. They can stay in it though. Something very similar happened to the theaters in the 50's, the TV. The way the industry combated this was changing their aspect ratio to 16:9 (it used to be 4:3 like TVs for those not in the know.) I'd expect something similar from the film industry in the next 10-15 years.
IMAX theaters sure are getting popular...
Just a few weeks ago I went to see TMNT on opening weekend around 8 or 9 pm... a prime time movie going time. Maybe... maybe half the seats were filled. Theaters are becoming a thing of the past or that's the way it looks. They can stay in it though. Something very similar happened to the theaters in the 50's, the TV. The way the industry combated this was changing their aspect ratio to 16:9 (it used to be 4:3 like TVs for those not in the know.) I'd expect something similar from the film industry in the next 10-15 years.
IMAX theaters sure are getting popular...
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Alienblue
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Steerforth... I am very careful about buying new DVDS, I live
in a "community" center and get to watch a lot of films before I buy them. I also have a freind who is a movie fanatic and rely on her veiws of a movie too. And I check out reviews on-site.
Movies I own on DVD like X-Men 1-3, Ice age 1-2, The batman and Superman movies...I have watched each one an average of 4 times, some 5 or 6 times (I have more free time because I "work" when I can at home); I would rather watch a GREAT movie 6 times than a crummy one once.
Anyway, I feel the average $20 DVD movie (they range from $18-$25 here)..."earns" it's keep if you watch it 3 to 4 times, considering movie tickets average $6.00 here. After that, you can trade it,sell it or use it as a fancy coaster and still be ahead!
in a "community" center and get to watch a lot of films before I buy them. I also have a freind who is a movie fanatic and rely on her veiws of a movie too. And I check out reviews on-site.
Movies I own on DVD like X-Men 1-3, Ice age 1-2, The batman and Superman movies...I have watched each one an average of 4 times, some 5 or 6 times (I have more free time because I "work" when I can at home); I would rather watch a GREAT movie 6 times than a crummy one once.
Anyway, I feel the average $20 DVD movie (they range from $18-$25 here)..."earns" it's keep if you watch it 3 to 4 times, considering movie tickets average $6.00 here. After that, you can trade it,sell it or use it as a fancy coaster and still be ahead!
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bluemonkey1
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Quill TMNT has been getting pretty bad reviews, hardly indicative of the whole industry.
Not to mention it's a kids film - 8-9pm is a bit late for a kids film. It's like seeing a horror film at 3 in the afternoon.
Not to mention it's a kids film - 8-9pm is a bit late for a kids film. It's like seeing a horror film at 3 in the afternoon.
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JustLikeHeaven1
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[QUOTE=bluemonkey]Quill TMNT has been getting pretty bad reviews, hardly indicative of the whole industry.
Not to mention it's a kids film - 8-9pm is a bit late for a kids film. It's like seeing a horror film at 3 in the afternoon.
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Yea it really does have more to do with the movie. And Bluemonkey is right...TMNT was probably packed at the 7:00 show. The target audience for the movie usually has to be in bed by 9 or 10.
Movie theatres still see sellout crowds. I remeber Borat was really hard to get a ticket for the first few weeks. Last summer my girlfriend wanted to see the Devil Wears Prada and that was sold out for a few nights. Popular movies still have packed crowds, bad movies...well don't.
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Adamant1
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[QUOTE=bluemonkey] Not to mention it's a kids film - 8-9pm is a bit late for a kids film. It's like seeing a horror film at 3 in the afternoon. [/QUOTE]
TMNT does have the advantage of a large, nostalgic fanbase in it's twenties, though. I'd go see it myself if the norwegian distributor didn't insist on having the movie only avaliable dubbed.
TMNT does have the advantage of a large, nostalgic fanbase in it's twenties, though. I'd go see it myself if the norwegian distributor didn't insist on having the movie only avaliable dubbed.
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Quill
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Yea it really does have more to do with the movie. And Bluemonkey is right...TMNT was probably packed at the 7:00 show. The target audience for the movie usually has to be in bed by 9 or 10.
Movie theatres still see sellout crowds. I remeber Borat was really hard to get a ticket for the first few weeks. Last summer my girlfriend wanted to see the Devil Wears Prada and that was sold out for a few nights. Popular movies still have packed crowds, bad movies...well don't.
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Hmm... I guess that was a bad example on my part.. however it was the #1 movie it's opening weekend in terms of sales. I also agree that there are movies that sell out on their opening weekend... it's just that a few years ago it seemed to be every movie. I also see theaters closing more frequently in my area and alot of movie theater projects have been abandoned.
As far as TMNT being a kid's movie.... that's kind of hard for me to believe. Everyone my age (early 20's) seemed more pumped about it than children. It also seemed more geared toward teenagers than children. I watch a couple of kids shows during the week and I never saw an ad for TMNT during those shows.
[QUOTE=bluemonkey]Quill TMNT has been getting pretty bad reviews, hardly indicative of the whole industry.
Not to mention it's a kids film - 8-9pm is a bit late for a kids film. It's like seeing a horror film at 3 in the afternoon.
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Yea it really does have more to do with the movie. And Bluemonkey is right...TMNT was probably packed at the 7:00 show. The target audience for the movie usually has to be in bed by 9 or 10.
Movie theatres still see sellout crowds. I remeber Borat was really hard to get a ticket for the first few weeks. Last summer my girlfriend wanted to see the Devil Wears Prada and that was sold out for a few nights. Popular movies still have packed crowds, bad movies...well don't.
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Hmm... I guess that was a bad example on my part.. however it was the #1 movie it's opening weekend in terms of sales. I also agree that there are movies that sell out on their opening weekend... it's just that a few years ago it seemed to be every movie. I also see theaters closing more frequently in my area and alot of movie theater projects have been abandoned.
As far as TMNT being a kid's movie.... that's kind of hard for me to believe. Everyone my age (early 20's) seemed more pumped about it than children. It also seemed more geared toward teenagers than children. I watch a couple of kids shows during the week and I never saw an ad for TMNT during those shows.
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Paul Campbell
Bluray/High def-what next?
[QUOTE=bluemonkey]
That's utter rubbish. The entire movie experience at home? The cinema experience is way better than anything that can be produced on a home setup. In real life the human eye is only able to perceive a limited range of it's total possible luminance range. This window moves around as we focus. That's why in a completely dark environment you can make out far more detail than you can if you open the curtains slightly, because your eyes have shifted their detectable range and you can perceive far more at the lower luminance range. That is why when you go from low to high light levels rapidly you feel pain in the brain.
The cinema is able to replicate the full range of luminance values. Television sets cannot do this. They only output a range equal to that detectable. As a result you get a much richer visual experience at the cinema. This is taken to extremes in films such as Sin City where the home experience pales in comparison to seeing it at a theatre.
I also don't know of many building complexes where they will tolerate cranking the volume up so loud the walls shake, like you get at the cinema.
Home cinema setups still lack the massive grandour of seeing a film blasted onto a 60metre wide wall.
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I was actually referring much more to the audio side of things, mostly because I personally feel that while all you said is true, I think you are WAY exaggerating the noticeable difference that these facts offer. Sure, the Cinema can present certain hues in a more natural kind of light that reminds us of the light we see reflected off objects in real life, but it certainly is not a night and day difference. I'm sorry, but if you are in the middle of a movie on a large HDTV, you are not going to be saying to your friends, "I'm leaving. I simply can't bear to watch this movie without the proper hues and black levels represented by real film." The difference is certainly there, but 99.99999% of the populace can't tell a difference.
You make a good point about sound when it comes to apartment complexes, but as far as the average home goes, a well chosen and installed home theater, even a modestly priced one (not one that cames in one big box, for example), can outperform a theater. You just need to know where to spend your money. If you don't believe this, you have not heard a real home theater. My foundation shook when I watched War of the Worlds the other day, and the audio easily surpassed the theater, where I also saw the movie.
I do also agree with the person who said that seein a movie with a large group of people is a separate kind of experience, but I still don't know if it's enough to make the average person want to watch a movie in a theater with the aforementioned expensive snacks, sticky floors, and person-with-an-affro sitting right in front of you.
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But that was different. Now the ENTIRE experience is at home, and in many cases, with much better sound than a real movie theater, because a movie theater sound system tries to pander to a large number of people, unlike a home theater, which can be focused on a small area of the room. Now that the WHOLE experience has been brought home, I can totally see movie theaters losing it one day. But only as homes with integrated systems become more common.
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That's utter rubbish. The entire movie experience at home? The cinema experience is way better than anything that can be produced on a home setup. In real life the human eye is only able to perceive a limited range of it's total possible luminance range. This window moves around as we focus. That's why in a completely dark environment you can make out far more detail than you can if you open the curtains slightly, because your eyes have shifted their detectable range and you can perceive far more at the lower luminance range. That is why when you go from low to high light levels rapidly you feel pain in the brain.
The cinema is able to replicate the full range of luminance values. Television sets cannot do this. They only output a range equal to that detectable. As a result you get a much richer visual experience at the cinema. This is taken to extremes in films such as Sin City where the home experience pales in comparison to seeing it at a theatre.
I also don't know of many building complexes where they will tolerate cranking the volume up so loud the walls shake, like you get at the cinema.
Home cinema setups still lack the massive grandour of seeing a film blasted onto a 60metre wide wall.
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I was actually referring much more to the audio side of things, mostly because I personally feel that while all you said is true, I think you are WAY exaggerating the noticeable difference that these facts offer. Sure, the Cinema can present certain hues in a more natural kind of light that reminds us of the light we see reflected off objects in real life, but it certainly is not a night and day difference. I'm sorry, but if you are in the middle of a movie on a large HDTV, you are not going to be saying to your friends, "I'm leaving. I simply can't bear to watch this movie without the proper hues and black levels represented by real film." The difference is certainly there, but 99.99999% of the populace can't tell a difference.
You make a good point about sound when it comes to apartment complexes, but as far as the average home goes, a well chosen and installed home theater, even a modestly priced one (not one that cames in one big box, for example), can outperform a theater. You just need to know where to spend your money. If you don't believe this, you have not heard a real home theater. My foundation shook when I watched War of the Worlds the other day, and the audio easily surpassed the theater, where I also saw the movie.
I do also agree with the person who said that seein a movie with a large group of people is a separate kind of experience, but I still don't know if it's enough to make the average person want to watch a movie in a theater with the aforementioned expensive snacks, sticky floors, and person-with-an-affro sitting right in front of you.
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ActRaiser1
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So, no one else brings a backpack with a 12-pack to the theatre to share with friends? Seriously, Borat was hysterical under those conditions. Of course, Beaches would probably have been just as funny under those conditions...though not necessarily for others in the audience, but I digress.
It's all in your state of mind and what you can get away with. The attendant asked me to leave my backpack with them and I told them no as it contained my laptop and asked if they would they want to be responsible for a $4000 laptop. Surprisingly, they said no thanks. Problem solved. Drinking commenced. Good times for all.
It's all in your state of mind and what you can get away with. The attendant asked me to leave my backpack with them and I told them no as it contained my laptop and asked if they would they want to be responsible for a $4000 laptop. Surprisingly, they said no thanks. Problem solved. Drinking commenced. Good times for all.
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Atarifever1
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They don't question me when I go in. Me and my fiancee sometimes just take stuff in in our pockets. I don't know what the rules are where you live, but up here they certainly don't give movie theatres the right to search and seize personal property. There're signs sayng not to bring your own stuff, but they're basically powerless to enforce them. I still usually buy a drink every movie, and some food every few movies.
One thing I was hating for awhile there was the previews that used to come on before every movie telling you to not download movies instead of watching them legally. Talk about missing your target audience. 99.99999% of the people in theatres have paid to watch the movie and won't be recording it illegally. Yet 100% of people at the theatre hate having to watch those terrible "don't steal movies" ads. I can't really see those numbers working in the favour of the movie companies. If I pay to sit there, why am I being punished because a ton of people who didn't pay to sit here downloaded something? I mean, if the ad were for something common, like smuggling food in, at least the people in the theatre would be like "yeah, you got me." Then we'd consider the ad our punishment and deal with it.
One thing I was hating for awhile there was the previews that used to come on before every movie telling you to not download movies instead of watching them legally. Talk about missing your target audience. 99.99999% of the people in theatres have paid to watch the movie and won't be recording it illegally. Yet 100% of people at the theatre hate having to watch those terrible "don't steal movies" ads. I can't really see those numbers working in the favour of the movie companies. If I pay to sit there, why am I being punished because a ton of people who didn't pay to sit here downloaded something? I mean, if the ad were for something common, like smuggling food in, at least the people in the theatre would be like "yeah, you got me." Then we'd consider the ad our punishment and deal with it.
[QUOTE=ActRaiser]So, no one else brings a backpack with a 12-pack to the theatre to share with friends? Seriously, Borat was hysterical under those conditions. Of course, Beaches would probably have been just as funny under those conditions...though not necessarily for others in the audience, but I digress.
It's all in your state of mind and what you can get away with. The attendant asked me to leave my backpack with them and I told them no as it contained my laptop and asked if they would they want to be responsible for a $4000 laptop. Surprisingly, they said no thanks. Problem solved. Drinking commenced. Good times for all.
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