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No Duke Nukem reviews?

Posted: April 11th, 2007, 5:04 pm
by Roperious1
I own Duke for Saturn and N64. I enjoy the content in the Saturn version but the graphics are clearly better in the N64 version. Also having done a great deal of work with the Duke engine for the PC i'll let you all know right now the textures in the Saturn version are very sloppy.



I have yet to purchase the PSX version but I remember playing it and it was quite good.



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Posted: April 12th, 2007, 12:35 am
by Alienblue
I really think our society is messed up. It's ok to kill a person, hear them scream, and see them dead with guts hanging out OH BUT MAKE SURE YOU CAN'T SEE ANY PRIVATE PARTS!

Does this make any sense at all?

Why are people so hung up on nudity? Especially breasts, which are more funtctional and meant for nursing infants, not dirty guys who think they look like butts!

It is a culture thing. I'm reminded of south american indians who run around naked because it's TOO FREAKIN' HOT for clothes. No problems there-BUT if you showed them a violent videogame though they would likely be mortified! Viva la difference.

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Posted: April 12th, 2007, 2:03 am
by m0zart1

[QUOTE=Alienblue]I really think our society is messed up. It's ok to kill a person, hear them scream, and see them dead with guts hanging out OH BUT MAKE SURE YOU CAN'T SEE ANY PRIVATE PARTS![/QUOTE]

Who says it's ok to kill people?  It's a game -- a fantasy.

[QUOTE=Alienblue]Why are people so hung up on nudity? Especially breasts, which are more funtctional and meant for nursing infants, not dirty guys who think they look like butts![/QUOTE]

I don't think breasts look like butts at all.  But I am definitely hung up on them

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Posted: April 12th, 2007, 7:42 pm
by feilong801
My point on the gun shop is that, since I believe Americans have the right to bear arms as defined in the constitution (without restrictions other than basic things like a criminal record check and perhaps some kind of licensure), the gun shop is an improvement over a strip club, which has no value at all.

That's where I was coming from. (-:

-Rob

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Posted: April 12th, 2007, 9:02 pm
by m0zart1
[QUOTE=feilong80]My point on the gun shop is that, since I believe Americans have the right to bear arms as defined in the constitution (without restrictions other than basic things like a criminal record check and perhaps some kind of licensure), the gun shop is an improvement over a strip club, which has no value at all.

That's where I was coming from. (-:[/QUOTE]

Obviously I agree, but I'll go one farther.  I consider it to be a basic human right to carry anything you like, so long as it is not a direct threat to non-aggressive individuals, and you have no intent to harm nonaggressive individuals with it.  Any attempt to prevent such "carrying" is violent barbarism.

Of course, that also means that though I see no real value in a porn shop, I have no intention of ever forbidding one -- or for that matter, allowing others to forbid one.  In fact, the right to bear arms is a primary protection when such bad law becomes intolerable and no other recourse is available -- which is precisely the reason why the Founding Fathers attempted to make sure it was guaranteed in said Constitution.

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Posted: April 12th, 2007, 10:56 pm
by Quiet Flight
In what ways is the Psx version better than the Saturn version? Just curious.

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Posted: April 13th, 2007, 10:46 am
by Roperious1
In the saturn version, its clear that the system couldn't handle the duke engine, or the developers got VERY lazy. The textures are all out of wack, you feel VERY small, too short for an FPS and you have to press START and select your inventory then active it there! I STILL can't figure out how to go up and down with the jetpack!


The PSX version addresses all of these issues.




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Posted: April 13th, 2007, 11:16 am
by KanYozakura
[QUOTE=Roperious]In the saturn version, its clear that the system couldn't handle the duke engine, or the developers got VERY lazy. The textures are all out of wack, you feel VERY small, too short for an FPS and you have to press START and select your inventory then active it there! I STILL can't figure out how to go up and down with the jetpack!


The PSX version addresses all of these issues. [/QUOTE]

To get up with the jetpack, it's R + B.  To go down, L + B.

The developers weren't lazy with SS Duke; they did the best they could with the technology available.  While it's not a picture perfect port, there are several redeeming qualities: lighting effects not featured on the other ports, the most uncut content (in the PSX version, he doesn't one-line as often, and pressing action on the mirror does NOT cause him to say "Damn, I'm lookin' good!", which is unforgivable in my eyes), and the more unchanged content compared to the PSX version (I haven't seen ANY cutscenes in the PSX version, and all of the redrawn sprites look BAD).  Plus, the PSX item selection is just as bad: L1 + L2 + O to cycle one way through the items, L1 + L2 + X to use/turn off the item, and L1 + L2 + [ ] for Mighty Foot.  Plus, the analog controls, while better than SS Duke, are still wonky.

That said, PSX Duke is certainly the more playable of the two.

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Posted: April 13th, 2007, 3:39 pm
by bluemonkey1

[QUOTE=feilong80]My point on the gun shop is that, since I believe Americans have the right to bear arms as defined in the constitution (without restrictions other than basic things like a criminal record check and perhaps some kind of licensure), the gun shop is an improvement over a strip club, which has no value at all.

That's where I was coming from. (-:

-Rob
[/QUOTE]

When has the right to bear arms ever been used to defend people's rights or prevent a corrupt police force/government?  Strip clubs on the other hand provide a great deal of value.  They provide entertainment for single people and couples in ways that improve those peoples' quality of life.  The puprose of a strip club is to bring enjoyment, the purpose of a gun shop is to provide a means to kill and maim people.  But then that's why the US has such a massive homicide and crime rate compared to other countries.

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Posted: April 13th, 2007, 4:48 pm
by m0zart1
[QUOTE=bluemonkey]When has the right to bear arms ever been used to defend people's rights or prevent a corrupt police force/government?  Strip clubs on the other hand provide a great deal of value.[/QUOTE]

Historically, any revolution including the American one, especially pre-democracy revolutions, at least in terms of preventing a corrupt police force or government.  You can also reference the Battle of Athens, Tennessee for a recent example within the United States.

As for protecting my rights, if someone is breaking into my home and threatening my family, are you seriously trying to contend that using a gun doesn't protect my right not to be violated in that way?

Back in the '90s, my neighbor was almost raped by an assailant, until she pulled a gun from under her mattress and shot him.  Was she protecting her right not to be raped?  Or would you say that she deserved prison time for owning a gun?

[QUOTE=bluemonkey]They provide entertainment for single people and couples in ways that improve those peoples' quality of life.  The puprose of a strip club is to bring enjoyment, the purpose of a gun shop is to provide a means to kill and maim people.  But then that's why the US has such a massive homicide and crime rate compared to other countries.[/QUOTE]

The purpose of a gun shop is to provide guns, which may be used to protect YOURSELF against those who have weapons of any kind and intend to harm you with them.  You can try to spin it to all the legal rhetoric you've learned as a faithful subject of the empire if you prefer, but it doesn't change the fact that merely owning a gun doesn't make someone a criminal anymore than owning a knife or even owning cianide in your attic.  And to act on them in a violent manner is a MORALLY BANKRUPT practice that is common among thug-governments and misguided (read: 'stupid') activists who hold non-realistic, even religious, notions on the origin and nature of criminal acts.

Making UK law an even worse proposition is how it protects criminals at te expense of their victims.  He can only respond to an assailant with a gun if the criminal is "similarly armed".  If an assaulted individual happens to have access to a gun, either through the scarce legal means or otherwise, he must sit back and let the thug have his way with him until a gun becomes visible, else suffer an even worse legal penalty than the criminal who meant him harm.

The UK will eventually learn this lesson, but not without costing a considerable number of innocent victims a bad experience if not even the price of their lives, a gradual increase in crime, and certainly not without labeling a considerable number of innocent individuals as criminals for the manufactured crime of carrying a gun.  Like I said before, you can hide your violence within your institutions if you like, but it's still violence, with or without the Prime Minister's stamp of approval, and no amount of conglomerate mob rule will turn an act of barbarism into anything less than an act of barbarism.

The tired and continuously disproven "Guns cause crime" mantra is right up there with the "Porn causes rape" and "Games cause violence" condescending and cliched mantras.  There is no metaphysical connection between guns and crime any more than there is between knives and crime.  It takes a willing and acting human being with crime on his mind, every time.