Critic, it's funny you bring this up but I remember getting pissed at Microsoft last January about not finding a 360. In all honesty the Wii wasn't that bad of a find, just pay attention to your sunday fliers (buy your Saturday-Sunday edition) and see which stores have the Wii in stock. And just get your butt up at the crack of dawn come Sunday morning. Problem solved.
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VideoGameCritic
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First, stop talking about my butt crack!
Next, it's really easy to say "getting a Wii is easy" until you really try to pick up one. I've had people swear that "this store has plenty" only to find a bunch of empty boxes. And then there are the people who got lucky and assume it's always that easy. I'm not exactly new to console buying, and this is the worst case I've ever seen of a company holding back.
And when they magically appear in all of the stores next week, you'll believe it too.
Next, it's really easy to say "getting a Wii is easy" until you really try to pick up one. I've had people swear that "this store has plenty" only to find a bunch of empty boxes. And then there are the people who got lucky and assume it's always that easy. I'm not exactly new to console buying, and this is the worst case I've ever seen of a company holding back.
And when they magically appear in all of the stores next week, you'll believe it too.
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Steerforth
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Bah, I still won't believe it. Just another conspiracy theory.
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feilong801
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Right. Perhaps because Nintendo "magically" hired more factories.
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Paul Campbell
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When a console is selling this well, I find it hard to take the side of the company holding back when the console is selling so well. Obviously there are enough out there to keep the numbers rolling. I also am curious as to what Dave's sources are that say they are definitely holding back.
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Shawn
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It is so funny and predictable that the Nintendo Fans on this board are like "Nintendo would NEVER hold back supply" while everybody else is screaming a conspiracy theory. I don't know if it is true or not but I spoke to the General Manager of Gamestop (a buddy of mine) for eastern Massachusetts and he said that his stores (about 20 or so) have been getting about 3 a month. Maybe that isn't holding back supply but that is very low production.
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Steerforth
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Here's the deal Shawn :
You don't know and neither do I.
There has been zero definitive evidence to suggest they have been holding back, and the only plausible reason I can think of that they would in the first place is for taxes. Its a worldwide launch, over 6 million sold, I would think that stretches pretty thin in a 4 - 5 month window. Likely they didn't anticipate this much demand. The other reason given is to induce hype, but as someone already pointed out, there is no need for more hype. The Wii is as hyped as it will ever be, time to move systems. Gee, do you think they would want leave the GC milemarker in the dust?
What's the difference anyway? They're hard to find. The Critic could have and still could buy one on EBAY. Odious to pay that much, I personaly wouldn't, but then I wouldn't drop $600 plus on a PS3 either. Likley sales will cool big time over the summer and Christmas will be crazy again.
You don't know and neither do I.
There has been zero definitive evidence to suggest they have been holding back, and the only plausible reason I can think of that they would in the first place is for taxes. Its a worldwide launch, over 6 million sold, I would think that stretches pretty thin in a 4 - 5 month window. Likely they didn't anticipate this much demand. The other reason given is to induce hype, but as someone already pointed out, there is no need for more hype. The Wii is as hyped as it will ever be, time to move systems. Gee, do you think they would want leave the GC milemarker in the dust?
What's the difference anyway? They're hard to find. The Critic could have and still could buy one on EBAY. Odious to pay that much, I personaly wouldn't, but then I wouldn't drop $600 plus on a PS3 either. Likley sales will cool big time over the summer and Christmas will be crazy again.
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Paul Campbell
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[QUOTE=Shawn]
I may be a Nintendo fan, but I would say the same thing no matter who the system was made by. If the system is selling well, and yet it is still hard to find, I don't think that gives me enough information to make an assumption either way, so I will default that the company is just trying to keep up with demand.
The fact that this is a console that is the successor to an only mildly successful console, and that it is such a radical departure from the norm (talking about the controls), it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that Nintendo was cautious about how many they made, in case the system flopped. At the same time, they might have made plenty of them assuming that they would at least be able to sell their backstock off eventually, even if it required a price drop to liquidate them, but saw that the system was selling so well that if they didn't control their release, they would soon run out of supply and have a period of absolutely nothing that would probably really throw people off. Or, they could have billions and just be letting them out slowly to keep interest high. I don't think we have enough evidence to come to any conclusion.
It is so funny and predictable that the Nintendo Fans on this board are like "Nintendo would NEVER hold back supply" while everybody else is screaming a conspiracy theory. I don't know if it is true or not but I spoke to the General Manager of Gamestop (a buddy of mine) for eastern Massachusetts and he said that his stores (about 20 or so) have been getting about 3 a month. Maybe that isn't holding back supply but that is very low production.
[/QUOTE]I may be a Nintendo fan, but I would say the same thing no matter who the system was made by. If the system is selling well, and yet it is still hard to find, I don't think that gives me enough information to make an assumption either way, so I will default that the company is just trying to keep up with demand.
The fact that this is a console that is the successor to an only mildly successful console, and that it is such a radical departure from the norm (talking about the controls), it wouldn't surprise me at all to find out that Nintendo was cautious about how many they made, in case the system flopped. At the same time, they might have made plenty of them assuming that they would at least be able to sell their backstock off eventually, even if it required a price drop to liquidate them, but saw that the system was selling so well that if they didn't control their release, they would soon run out of supply and have a period of absolutely nothing that would probably really throw people off. Or, they could have billions and just be letting them out slowly to keep interest high. I don't think we have enough evidence to come to any conclusion.
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feilong801
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I've been generally downplaying the possibility. But only because it doesn't make sense that you wouldn't be trying to get as many consoles out there when they are selling this well.
But it doesn't mean that I don't acknowledge that it could be true. I would disagree with it if it were so.
But I'm a simple musician, after all, so who knows what skullduggery would be behind not making enough?
-Rob
But it doesn't mean that I don't acknowledge that it could be true. I would disagree with it if it were so.
But I'm a simple musician, after all, so who knows what skullduggery would be behind not making enough?
-Rob
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ActRaiser1
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There would be a logical reason for withholding stock - though it's a very bad long term decision.
Every publicly traded company runs their business on a quarter to quarter basis. As Nintendo has made and exceeded their goals for this quarter one thought would be to wait and release the consoles in the following quarter to exceed their projected numbers for the following quarter; however, and here's the big thing...no company is stupid enough to do that.
Why? Every console sold by Nintendo today means a much larger chain of revenue down the road from future software sold. Only an idiot would withhold console stock today to sacrifice increased future returns.
As for gamestop, they always, and I mean always get screwed when it comes to shipment numbers. The big box retailers always get the larger numbers of shipments per month. Target, Best Buy, Wal-Mart, Toys R Us, will have the shipments, GameStop, good luck with that. Xbox 360s were the same way at GameStop for the longest time. Whoever is in charge at GameStop seriously needs to do some ass kissing at each of the major game companies to up their console stock numbers.
Every publicly traded company runs their business on a quarter to quarter basis. As Nintendo has made and exceeded their goals for this quarter one thought would be to wait and release the consoles in the following quarter to exceed their projected numbers for the following quarter; however, and here's the big thing...no company is stupid enough to do that.
Why? Every console sold by Nintendo today means a much larger chain of revenue down the road from future software sold. Only an idiot would withhold console stock today to sacrifice increased future returns.
As for gamestop, they always, and I mean always get screwed when it comes to shipment numbers. The big box retailers always get the larger numbers of shipments per month. Target, Best Buy, Wal-Mart, Toys R Us, will have the shipments, GameStop, good luck with that. Xbox 360s were the same way at GameStop for the longest time. Whoever is in charge at GameStop seriously needs to do some ass kissing at each of the major game companies to up their console stock numbers.
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