Game Movies?

Alienblue · Postby **Alienblue** » July 28th, 2007, 12:50 pm

I am wondering why they have not made GOOD movies on the folowing games...:

ZELDA: C,mon it's PERFECT for an all star cast, fantasy film! Why they made a real-life Super Mario but not Zelda boggles the mind!

SUPER MARIO BROS: Sure the real life one stunk but lets see them do it ANIMATED via computer, it could be fantastic! Start with a flashback of Mario saving Pauline from an escaped gorilla! Then show Mario/Luigi as plumbers, maybe they vacation on Peach Island and Mario falls in love with the princess, and has to save her. ANIMATED this could e awesome!

METROID: Just make SAMUS a beefed up marine like the girl in ALIENS, not a Playboy madel, and this writes itself!

While I'm on the subject of movies I'd like to see the followig cult TV shows brought to the big screen: 6 million dollar man, Space:1999(call it 2099), Greatest American Hero, Land Of The Lost (the original) and ALL in the family!

Others?

Steerforth · Postby **Steerforth** » July 28th, 2007, 3:10 pm

No offense, but no thanks. Maybe we'll see a good vg movie someday, but I am not going to hold my breath.

Once in a while I see the Pokemon cartoon and watch for about a minute. Wow, it sucks. Worst animation this side of Dora the Explorer, and completely brain dead to boot. Nintendo, you should be embarrassed! Also, I saw some Pokemon cards in the impulse aisle and were blown away by how expensive they are. They make baseball cards look like a bargain, not an easy feat nowadays! I must make sure my kids do not become Pokemaniacs, no wonder Nintendo's profits look the way they do.

m0zart1 · Postby **m0zart1** » July 28th, 2007, 3:30 pm

[QUOTE=Alienblue]ZELDA: C,mon it's PERFECT for an all star cast, fantasy film! Why they made a real-life Super Mario but not Zelda boggles the mind![/QUOTE]

I REALLY don't want to see a Zelda movie.

[QUOTE=Alienblue]METROID: Just make SAMUS a beefed up marine like the girl in ALIENS, not a Playboy madel, and this writes itself![/QUOTE]

Metroid could be made to work, but not by removing Samus' sex appeal. She should be a Playboy model, AND still know how to kick ***. In 2002, there was actually a movie in the works, but the project seems to have disappeared.

feilong801 · Postby **feilong801** » July 28th, 2007, 3:50 pm

I once wrote extensively on how a good Zelda movie could be made. It would be very difficult, though. Some of my main points were:

1. No english or other recognizeable language. Have the whole movie in some kind of created "Hylian" language with subtitles.

2. Total unknowns for all major roles. It would be too distracting to have, say, Orlando Bloom as Link.

3. For once, actually adapt the plot of one of the more popular versions of the game, as opposed to trying to create something new, which often ruins game-to-movie conversions. I would propose Twilight Princess, with a CGI created Midna.

Anything is possible. Probably many people thought that Lord of the Rings wouldn't make for good cinema, but that was done. But...... it is a highly dangerous area.

I like the idea of Metroid being a movie. It fits within some pre-established formulas and doesn't require reinventing any wheels.

I think if we are to see a Legend of Zelda movie, though, it will be twenty years or so down the line at least.

-Rob

Atarifever1 · Postby **Atarifever1** » July 28th, 2007, 6:33 pm

[QUOTE=m0zart]

[QUOTE=Alienblue]METROID: Just make SAMUS a beefed up marine like the girl in ALIENS, not a Playboy madel, and this writes itself![/QUOTE]

Metroid could be made to work, but not by removing Samus' sex appeal. She should be a Playboy model, AND still know how to kick ***.
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That hardly ever works. It's like putting all your money on 18 red; it can work out pretty big, but 99% of the time you'd have been better off not doing it. Look at Catwoman. Do you really want to see more Catwoman and Fantastic Four movies? She can be a woman who we actually watch and think (gasp) something other than "man she's hot". I'm not saying she should be ugly, as none of the in game footage has ever made it look that way, but maybe for once the strong, self assured, independant woman character could not look like she's headed to the runway in the middle of a laser battle. I say leave her in the freaking suit the entire time.

As a man, how would you feel if in the middle of Blade 2 they had thrown Blade into a thong? It's silly. She's fighting Space Pirates; leave her in her wicket cool suit of armour. If I want to see a hot girl in no clothes, they have forms of media specifically tailored to that.

And what do you mean "remove her sex appeal". When did she have any? During the games she's in the armour, and worse: she's not real. Not real things don't have sex appeal, because they aren't real.

m0zart1 · Postby **m0zart1** » July 28th, 2007, 6:49 pm

[QUOTE=Atarifever]That hardly ever works. It's like putting all your money on 18 red; it can work out pretty big, but 99% of the time you'd have been better off not doing it. Look at Catwoman. Do you really want to see more Catwoman and Fantastic Four movies? She can be a woman who we actually watch and think (gasp) something other than "man she's hot". I'm not saying she should be ugly, as none of the in game footage has ever made it look that way, but maybe for once the strong, self assured, independant woman character could not look like she's headed to the runway in the middle of a laser battle. I say leave her in the freaking suit the entire time.[/QUOTE]

That would NEVER work. She has to be shown out of the suit, and not just at the end either. This is a movie we're talking about -- not a video game with a surprise ending. Samus is intended to be all woman all the time. She's hot, period. I don't see this choice between babe and brawn to be mutually exclusive -- I can be impressed by her beauty AND her brawn, and since she has always been portrayed with both, she should have both in any movie.

[QUOTE=Atarifever]As a man, how would you feel if in the middle of Blade 2 they had thrown Blade into a thong? It's silly. She's fighting Space Pirates; leave her in her wicket cool suit of armour. If I want to see a hot girl in no clothes, they have forms of media specifically tailored to that.[/QUOTE]

Samus is a fantasy figure -- she can fight space pirates and still be beautiful. Seriously, what is it with this aversion some of you guys have to making Samus into the beautiful woman she is continually portrayed to be from day one?

Nobody suggested she had to wear a thong or even be nude. Contrary to popular belief, women who are beautiful enough to be in Playboy don't always choose to cover its pages. Nor do they just sit around and think of ditzy things to do all day -- their beauty is not the kind of natural handicap that liberalized women and men would like to portray it as. It is possible to be an attractive woman and still have interests outside of long walks on the beach, and it is still possible to be beautiful and honorable without having to join the marines.

I picture Samus in the same vein (with some obvious plot differences, of course) as Tarantino portrayed the heroine in the Kill Bill movies -- beautiful and tough, and I think movies like that show that not only can it work, but it can work very well.

[QUOTE=Atarifever]And what do you mean "remove her sex appeal". When did she have any? During the games she's in the armour, and worse: she's not real. Not real things don't have sex appeal, because they aren't real. [/QUOTE]

When didn't she have any? She is a beautiful woman, albeit pixelated. She is intended to be hot, not ugly or even average. I don't quite understand the objection that she is fictional -- all characters in books, movies, etc. are fictional, even those portrayed from historical circumstances to some degree. It is how the character is portrayed here that matters, and in every game ending has shown a formiddably attractive woman as good as it possibly can in the resolution available, not just average. She has sex appeal -- and guess what, there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever. You guys treat the ideal womanly form as if it were some horrible sin for those who have it. Get over it already.

As a man, I live in a world where many men who are much better looking than me grace magazine pages and book covers and movies. I don't resent that -- I can appreciate why women like that, and I don't see it as a threat whatsoever. If a movie version of Resident Evil 4 were made, and they cast Brad Pitt in the role of Leon Kennedy, it wouldn't bother me -- who else would I expect, Rob Schneider? The latter would just be some attempt to make him look plain or average -- something he's clearly never been in either RE2 or RE4. Rather than identifying with that kind of move as an average looking guy myself, I'd feel that it's condescending to ordinary looking people to overemphasize them, kind of like the way it's condescending to have a token racial minority portrayed in every form of media.

Adamant1 · Postby **Adamant1** » July 28th, 2007, 7:14 pm

[QUOTE=Steerforth]Once in a while I see the Pokemon cartoon and watch for about a minute. Wow, it sucks. Worst animation this side of Dora the Explorer, and completely brain dead to boot. Nintendo, you should be embarrassed![/QUOTE]

It's a weekly anime series with no destignated ending. That's generally what they look like. Check out one of the movies, they have much higher budget and production time.

And eh, it's still entertaining. What are your complaints about the plot?

Atarifever1 · Postby **Atarifever1** » July 28th, 2007, 8:30 pm

[QUOTE=m0zart]

[QUOTE=Atarifever]And what do you mean "remove her sex appeal". When did she have any? During the games she's in the armour, and worse: she's not real. Not real things don't have sex appeal, because they aren't real. [/QUOTE]

When didn't she have any? She is a beautiful woman, albeit pixelated. She is intended to be hot, not ugly or even average. I don't quite understand the objection that she is fictional -- all characters in books, movies, etc. are fictional, even those portrayed from historical circumstances to some degree. It is how the character is portrayed here that matters, and in every game ending has shown a formiddably attractive woman as good as it possibly can in the resolution available, not just average. She has sex appeal -- and guess what, there's nothing wrong with that whatsoever. You guys treat the ideal womanly form as if it were some horrible sin for those who have it. Get over it already.

As a man, I live in a world where many men who are much better looking than me grace magazine pages and book covers and movies. I don't resent that -- I can appreciate why women like that, and I don't see it as a threat whatsoever. If a movie version of Resident Evil 4 were made, and they cast Brad Pitt in the role of Leon Kennedy, it wouldn't bother me -- who else would I expect, Rob Schneider? The latter would just be some attempt to make him look plain or average -- something he's clearly never been in either RE2 or RE4. Rather than identifying with that kind of move as an average looking guy myself, I'd feel that it's condescending to ordinary looking people to overemphasize them, kind of like the way it's condescending to have a token racial minority portrayed in every form of media. [/QUOTE]

But she's not "a beautiful woman". She's not a woman at all. She's math. And it's funny that you refered to her as "the ideal womanly form". It's often the 12 year old's ideal womanly form. Many of us have more taste than "Big boobs please; oh yeah, and make her blond. hahahaha". Sorry if this messes with your worldview there Plato, but there isn't one "ideal womanly form".

Whatever you write here about "beauty and brawn" and her not having to be naked, I'd guess you wouldn't bet your life on what the chances are she'll be wearing anything but skin tight spandex/leather, a short skirt, or a bikini.

A male actor stands a good chance in the industry even if he's ugly. How many Rob Schnider, Kevin James, and Steve Bushimis are there in female versions? Now how many of them play anything besides "that ugly girl"? This silliness is just another part of that. In fact, it's worse because now the woman doesn't even have to be able to exist for men to start fawning over her.

Also, regarding her portrayal as an attractive woman to the limits of the technology, I don't think the NES did that. People might think that was the idea, due to her being in a bikini, but come on. She was obviously put in a two piece to show that, you know, she was a woman. On 8 bit hardware what was the other option? Putting her in a dress (yeah, she wears a dress under the suit, that'd make sense)? Making the surprise be that she was Princess Peach? It wasn't to make her attractive. It was to make you realize Samus was a girl.

feilong801 · Postby **feilong801** » July 28th, 2007, 8:34 pm

I have to agree with m0zart here. Hopefully my previous posts regarding being uncomfortable playing as certain buxom female game avatars, like Lara Croft, haven't obscured the fact that I think there is nothing inherently wrong with the female form.

Zero Suit Samus doesn't bother me like the DOA girls, because she is a character we already know to have substance. She is more than just a babe, and of course a Metroid movie would be wise to show that: both the substance AND the "babeness." It can be done tastefully.

Catwoman, btw, wasn't a bad movie because Halle Berry played the title role, it was a bad movie because, well, the movie stunk.

-Rob

Atarifever1 · Postby **Atarifever1** » July 28th, 2007, 9:20 pm

[QUOTE=feilong80]

Catwoman, btw, wasn't a bad movie because Halle Berry played the title role, it was a bad movie because, well, the movie stunk.
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I didn't say it was bad because of her, I said it was bad because, as often happens when movie producers put hot women in skimpy clothes, the people in charge decided that that was enough work and then put the movie on auto pilot. If Samus is played by, say, Paris Hilton (which isn't beyond the realm of reason, look at Barb Wire, and Darkhorse made good comics) then the movie certainly will suck. Then, I hated the Tomb Raider movies (because they were like Indiana Jones movies, just with a wooden main character who never seemed flustered by anything and who didn't ever get her clothes dirty, all the while never seeming to ever be in any kind of danger; so basically, like a boring Indiana Jones movie).